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Reply #15 - May 11th, 2012 at 11:54pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 10:49pm:
john_g wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Soren and progs, good one! Yet that won't stop Gillard and cronies from going on about the presumption of innocence for both, DESPITE THEIR OWN AMENDMENT.

Excuse the language, but could Labor get any more fu cked up!

This divide the nation and class warefare is going to be their legacy of fu..ed up. Big time. It is going to get ugly and embarrassing as they think they are on a winner.

This country needs a massive political revival of working class values but this corrupt Government is just teasing and mocking for political expediency - they are whores for big business and care nothing for our families or their future. Cool
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Reply #16 - May 12th, 2012 at 12:11am
 
still lying about everything I see CW  or is it Sock No. 6?

So a pollie does wrong.!  WOW , scandalous.
This divide the nation and class warefare is going to be their legacy of fu..ed up. Big time. It is going to get ugly and embarrassing as they think they are on a winner.

WORKED for HOWARD.!!


Give it a rest morons.
Your heroes are more corrupt and 'wrong' ..... all you have is this crap??

Get a life. Cheesy Cool
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Reply #17 - May 12th, 2012 at 12:25am
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 10:36pm:
Soren wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 10:24pm:
Under the current Fair Work Australia legislation (devised and introduced by one J. Gillard), there is no presumption of innocence. Section 361 of the Fair Work Act reverses the onus of proof applicable to civil proceedings. The onus is on the accused to to clear him/herself.

This is why, among so many other ironies, this is perhaps the more splendid. As far as the members of the HSU are concerned, the onus is on Thompson to clear himself. And the law (Julia's law) is on their side. Talk about buggered with your own petard.


That is hilarious

Senator Brandis suggested Labor's changes to the Fair Work Act were coming back to haunt the government.

''What this means is that far from enjoying the presumption of innocence, as a result of Section 361 of the Fair Work Act, there is a presumption against Slipper,'' he said.

''Those Labor politicians including the Prime Minister [Julia Gillard] and the Attorney-General [Nicola Roxon] who say Slipper is entitled to presumption of innocence are ignoring the fact that they themselves removed the presumption of innocence in cases of this kind and replaced it with a presumption of guilt.''


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/slipper-is-presumed-guilty-libs-2012042...


Section 361 of the Fair Work Act reverses the onus of proof applicable to civil proceedings. The onus is on the accused to to clear him/herself.

Why would the fair work act apply to civil procedings as the vast majority of civil procedings are not associated with fair work legislation?

How would civil proceding have an impact on Slipper etc? Their is no criminal charge associated and no impact on a politicians position in parlament from a civil action.

You have to wonder what Brandis has been smoking.
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Reply #18 - May 12th, 2012 at 12:30am
 
JuLIAR working class hero my 'rse.  She has been in bed with big business running mass skills migration programs for them and suckholing us to the US - she is a  suckhole and the ALP and Greens are corporate maggots, we know your game.  We see all.
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Reply #19 - May 12th, 2012 at 1:02am
 
You see all??  We see all? 
Ah sorry,  who'd that be.  The LNP???  LNP supporters???  Schizoid paranoics???

CW we have all heard your lies before... so I guess you're lying now.

U R on the NOSE ,  distinctly noxious smelly bit of work.  Still, with  people ? like U supporting them, good luck LNP.!!   Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy
Looney Tunes, but to a different beat this go round eh? Smiley
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Reply #20 - May 12th, 2012 at 1:13am
 
Emma wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 1:02am:
You see all??  We see all? 


And he's posted that silly looking green picture again.....
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Reply #21 - May 12th, 2012 at 1:20am
 
Frances wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 1:13am:
Emma wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 1:02am:
You see all??  We see all? 


And he's posted that silly looking green picture again.....


He's right, Gillard has no right to say that she supports working class people, when she supports this piece of filth!
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Reply #22 - May 12th, 2012 at 1:25am
 
I  have no love for any Political Party - dont you know loose cannons rock solo?  Why do the Greens and ALP run racist invasion programs on my Nieces country?  Why do the push birth control and abortion on Aboriginal people? Cool
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Reply #23 - May 12th, 2012 at 4:36am
 
adelcrow wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 9:50pm:
john_g wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 9:44pm:
adelcrow wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 9:35pm:
Your giving up on the basic legal principal of the accused being innocent unless proven otherwise?
I assume that if you have you will also denounce Abbott for being accused of indecent assault and vandalism in the 1970's?


Abbott's 1970 case (whatever that is, I don't know) wasn't found to have breached 156 contraventions of a union, was it? Also bearing in mind that FWA is a government body, and wasn't it Labor that set it up?  Roll Eyes


The basic legal principals remain the same and it makes no difference that Abbott wants to grab power without having an election




no wonder the BIKIES are running rampant in SA... you are basically claiming that even if the police do do a raid then they are still innocent..

I am wondering what you would call evidence if you were a lawyer?????


you are not a lawyer and neither am I so we are both in the wilderness with this one...

but you are the one insisting.....how much evidence is evidence then????

I mean some have been found guilty of murder even though there is no body...


how do we come to those conclusions????.. and take someone to trial..


someone has to say... We believe that person is guilty of a crime We think we have enough evidence to prove it.. lets take him  before the courts.


so far THOMO has been named by FWA.so far he has been named in police reports.so far he has been named in HSU investigations.

so far he has been suspended from the ALP. so far he has been asked by the PM to remove himself from the Labor Benches ]smirk smirk but we will of course accept your vote]

so far the ALP are paying out god only knows what on lawyers....

now he plans to make a speech defending himself..[why he is innocent isnt he?]

and by all accounts using someone.. [who is nameless] as threatening him with prostitutes...


OMG...

but yet we have not a shred of evidence to point at this poor man

life as they say is a beach.
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Reply #24 - May 12th, 2012 at 6:31am
 
adelcrow wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 9:35pm:
Your giving up on the basic legal principal of the accused being innocent unless proven otherwise?
I assume that if you have you will also denounce Abbott for being accused of indecent assault and vandalism in the 1970's?


Are you saying you believe that load of absolute, utter crap???
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Reply #25 - May 12th, 2012 at 6:45am
 
john_g wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 9:24pm:
Craig Thomson says union rival once threatened to ‘set him up with hookers'
From: AAP May 11, 2012 7:33PM


FEDERAL MP Craig Thomson claims a rival union official threatened eight years ago to ruin his career by setting him up with prostitutes.


Mr Thomson's lawyers last month sent Fair Work Australia (FWA) a submission which says the unnamed rival was witnessed in 2004 threatening to "ruin Mr Thomson's life, to destroy his political ambitions and to set him up with a bunch of hookers", the Nine Network reported today.

Mr Thomson has accused FWA of failing to investigate the claim, which is expected to be a key focus of the suspended Labor MP's long-awaited explanation to federal parliament later this month, Nine said.

An FWA report alleges that as head of the Health Services Union from 2002 to 2007, Mr Thomson misused union funds to pay for prostitutes, lavish travel and meals, and to fund his 2007 election campaign.

Mr Thomson - elected as a Labor MP but now sitting on the crossbenches after being suspended from the party - denies all wrongdoing.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard says she is confident key independent MPs will honour their agreement to allow her government to run its full term, despite concerns about Labor continuing to accept Mr Thomson's independent vote.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott has expressed concern that when he entered into the "good faith agreement" with Ms Gillard to support Labor to form a minority government after the 2010 election he was not aware of the allegations against Mr Thomson.

Mr Oakeshott says he will listen carefully to what Mr Thomson has to say in a statement to parliament on May 21 before deciding whether to back some form of censure.

However, Ms Gillard today said she was "very confident" her government would last through to the election due in late 2013.

"The election is due in the second half of 2013 and it'll be held on the normal time," she said in Adelaide.

Another independent with an agreement with the Government, Tony Windsor, said in an open letter to media across the country that he would not be supporting any action by the parliament against Mr Thomson.

"Every Australian has rights that include a presumption of innocence until proven guilty," Mr Windsor said.

He was backed by another independent, Bob Katter, who said he did not want to be cast in the role of judging other MPs.

Meanwhile, HSU general secretary Kathy Jackson wants the union's national executive to back a motion, at a national executive meeting on Monday, to sue Mr Thomson, who now sits as a federal independent MP after being suspended from the ALP.

Ms Jackson is seeking legal advice on whether Mr Thomson can be forced to pay the money back with interest.

Mr Thomson said he planned to make a 30-minute statement on May 21.

"This really is the first opportunity I've had to respond to the Fair Work report," he said.

"It will be a broad, extensive response and will take around half an hour - it's not going to be a two-minute statement."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/craig-thomson-says-union-rival-once-t...


Unnamed rival - in plain English, that means this is a load of crap and I am desperately doing anything I can to get out of this mess I created.
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Reply #26 - May 12th, 2012 at 7:00am
 
corporate_whitey wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 1:25am:
I  have no love for any Political Party - dont you know loose cannons rock solo?  Why do the Greens and ALP run racist invasion programs on my Nieces country?  Why do the push birth control and abortion on Aboriginal people? Cool


My god not only are you a total looser but you are abusing the plight of an indigenous peoples for your own gain. You only show yourself as a pathetic at every turn. Get off the self-pity bus and do something useful.
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Reply #27 - May 12th, 2012 at 7:07am
 
From the Daily Telegraph...

"Mr Thomson also claimed that at least three other witnesses were prepared to testify to FWA about an official complaint, made in 2005 to then-Victorian HSU boss Kathy Jackson, that one of her officials admitted trying to set Mr Thomson up with prostitutes.

Ms Jackson yesterday accused Mr Thomson of an "utter fabrication" and dismissed his claims any union official had tried to set him up with escorts or that she had been told of any allegations."


It's pretty obvious what this is - a desperate attempt by Thomson to weasel out of this mess by placing suspicion on someone else - namely Jackson.
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Reply #28 - May 12th, 2012 at 7:17am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 7:07am:
From the Daily Telegraph...

"Mr Thomson also claimed that at least three other witnesses were prepared to testify to FWA about an official complaint, made in 2005 to then-Victorian HSU boss Kathy Jackson, that one of her officials admitted trying to set Mr Thomson up with prostitutes.

Ms Jackson yesterday accused Mr Thomson of an "utter fabrication" and dismissed his claims any union official had tried to set him up with escorts or that she had been told of any allegations."


It's pretty obvious what this is - a desperate attempt by Thomson to weasel out of this mess by placing suspicion on someone else - namely Jackson.


And i was set up with that joint i smoked too. Grin Grin Grin Grin someone just handed it to me.
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Reply #29 - May 12th, 2012 at 7:38am
 
nairbe wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 7:17am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12th, 2012 at 7:07am:
From the Daily Telegraph...

"Mr Thomson also claimed that at least three other witnesses were prepared to testify to FWA about an official complaint, made in 2005 to then-Victorian HSU boss Kathy Jackson, that one of her officials admitted trying to set Mr Thomson up with prostitutes.

Ms Jackson yesterday accused Mr Thomson of an "utter fabrication" and dismissed his claims any union official had tried to set him up with escorts or that she had been told of any allegations."


It's pretty obvious what this is - a desperate attempt by Thomson to weasel out of this mess by placing suspicion on someone else - namely Jackson.


And i was set up with that joint i smoked too. Grin Grin Grin Grin someone just handed it to me.


How the hell do you get set up to sleep with a prostitute? Oh, maybe the conversation with the hooker goes something like, "I didn't really wanna have sex with you - I'm being forced to by my boss!". If that imbecile really thinks anyone is going to believe him, he's in for a rude shock.
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