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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: can someone do something about the filth that is Reply #60 - May 10^th, 2012 at 7:19pm Emma wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 7:12pm: and didn't my quote from ??? get id'ed as Nairbe, when it was MM who said it.?? I used the 'button', I swear...!!6^%^%^^ ...so sorry to cast aspersions there Nairbe - 'it weren't me, really.' I agree with YOU. All's cool
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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #61 - May 10^th, 2012 at 9:07pm

No SOB .. not talking to you, specifically. Nor any other in particular. Haven't bothered looking at these topics lately, I admit, and don't know who is currently being a ratbag.

Just heard enough of it.
It serves no positive or helpful purpose for the people who read it.
. I'd call it destructive posting.

I have started a few posts in the past, ....... some have done well. At the moment I am not motivated by anything particular that is new. It all becomes rather repetitious after a few decades of observation.
Never to learn from our mistakes....such foolish beings we are.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #62 - May 11^th, 2012 at 9:09am

Emma wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:07pm:

No SOB .. not talking to you, specifically. Nor any other in particular. Haven't bothered looking at these topics lately, I admit, and don't know who is currently being a ratbag.

Just heard enough of it.
It serves no positive or helpful purpose for the people who read it.
. I'd call it destructive posting.

I have started a few posts in the past, ....... some have done well. At the moment I am not motivated by anything particular that is new. It all becomes rather repetitious after a few decades of observation.
Never to learn from our mistakes....such foolish beings we are.

Ahh. Okay. Sorry then.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #63 - May 11^th, 2012 at 10:18am

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:51am:

We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.

WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1. those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the
transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.

Both those statements need context before any further comment.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #64 - May 11^th, 2012 at 10:21am

Emma wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out.

Oh right

Rubbish!!! what'syaname?? Nothing acceptable about it - when presented in such a manner. The motive is so f'n plain.... FEAR & Hatred.

Ipso facto, a topic about race IS racist. It becomes bigoted when it involves personal opinion/comment which is entirely dedicated to perceived differences between peoples - thence to inadequacies or faults in the target peoples, and thence to an excuse to persecute them.

Such a simple UGLY process. !!! Angry

Umm ... you are quoting me, not nairbe.

What debate doesn't revolve around differences, inadequacies, and faults? This is what debate is.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #65 - May 11^th, 2012 at 5:44pm

Emma wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:07pm:

No SOB .. not talking to you, specifically. Nor any other in particular. Haven't bothered looking at these topics lately, I admit, and don't know who is currently being a ratbag.

Just heard enough of it.
It serves no positive or helpful purpose for the people who read it.
. I'd call it destructive posting.

I have started a few posts in the past, ....... some have done well. At the moment I am not motivated by anything particular that is new. It all becomes rather repetitious after a few decades of observation.
Never to learn from our mistakes....such foolish beings we are.

as you can see by the OP my problem was with pol.S. it was in general and the way it suddenly turned... of course its boring right now we only have two things to talk about.. the woeful govt.. and the opposition..but it still reaches a level of un-acceptance..

and was very much going the same way as yahoo.

I really hate the idea of a forum being closed down because of a few ignorant people thats all..

when a topic get hijacked thats another thing..not a lot anyone can do about that as long as its fair and not vicious.

if we dont stop the nit picking then it turns ugly and by then so much damage..

have a nice day.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #66 - May 11^th, 2012 at 6:35pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:51am:

We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.

WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1. those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the
transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.

Both those statements need context before any further comment.

Take your contextual pick. Say
1. A boat load of refugees off Ashmore Reef.
2. A group of Ugandan refugees coming here through an UN camp.
3. An incident involving a couple of lebanese youths in Marrickville.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #67 - May 12^th, 2012 at 6:05pm

nairbe wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:51am:

We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.

WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1. those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the
transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.

Both those statements need context before any further comment.

Take your contextual pick. Say
1. A boat load of refugees off Ashmore Reef.
2. A group of Ugandan refugees coming here through an UN camp.
3. An incident involving a couple of lebanese youths in Marrickville.

Questions of race and religion may be perfectly legitimate concerns. Still, these statements don't have much context.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: can someone do something about the filth that is Reply #68 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:21pm and we're going off topic again. Like I said, and others have said, take it to the right board. Feedback??.... What I said already.
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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #69 - May 17^th, 2012 at 6:53pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 6:05pm:

nairbe wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:51am:

We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.

WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1. those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the
transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.

Both those statements need context before any further comment.

Take your contextual pick. Say
1. A boat load of refugees off Ashmore Reef.
2. A group of Ugandan refugees coming here through an UN camp.
3. An incident involving a couple of lebanese youths in Marrickville.

Questions of race and religion may be perfectly legitimate concerns. Still, these statements don't have much context.

No idea, no answers and no hope. If that is it then you are a joke.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #70 - May 17^th, 2012 at 7:13pm

nairbe wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 6:05pm:

nairbe wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 11^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 9:46am:

nairbe wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 6:51am:

We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.

Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.

WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1. those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the
transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.

Both those statements need context before any further comment.

Take your contextual pick. Say
1. A boat load of refugees off Ashmore Reef.
2. A group of Ugandan refugees coming here through an UN camp.
3. An incident involving a couple of lebanese youths in Marrickville.

Questions of race and religion may be perfectly legitimate concerns. Still, these statements don't have much context.

No idea, no answers and no hope. If that is it then you are a joke.

I know what you were trying to do. You were trying to make me make a generalization based on a few vague statements. You need to be more specific.

I know all your tricks. You won't fool me.

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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #71 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:07pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 7:13pm: