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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #45 - May 10th, 2012 at 9:46am
 
nairbe wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 6:51am:
We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted  banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.



Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and  "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.
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Reply #46 - May 10th, 2012 at 11:26am
 
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Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted?
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The short answer MM, is that they are not.

However, if accusations are framed using Racist language, and using  bigoted Racial stereotyping that could commonly be accepted as offensive, then they are unlikely to be allowed to stand unchallenged, and if deemed as being deliberate attempts to be hateful, or to incite hatred, on racial grounds, then they may be removed, and the offender held accountable.

If you do really wish to discuss the issues in a serious manner, then some of the member run boards do allow members quite a degree of flexibility in how they present their views.
The Multiculturalism and Race Board, in particular, is probably the most appropriate place you could discuss any racial issues you want to.
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Reply #47 - May 10th, 2012 at 11:38am
 
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I know that leftist types are effeminate in character


Left leaning men are all weak and feminine pansy boys, while feminists are all hairy, ball busting dykish types.

Is that how you see it, Bolshie?

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Reply #48 - May 10th, 2012 at 2:34pm
 
the multiculturalism/race board has been lacking proper moderators for years now.
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Reply #49 - May 10th, 2012 at 2:38pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 2:34pm:
the multiculturalism/race board has been lacking proper moderators for years now.



Yes, which leaves it open for spamming by the likes of karnal and ko.

Giz the moderators keys freediver!
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Reply #50 - May 10th, 2012 at 2:59pm
 
karnals more a bad faith actor than a spammer
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Reply #51 - May 10th, 2012 at 5:34pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 9:46am:
nairbe wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 6:51am:
We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted  banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.



Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and  "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory
that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.


Oi! bugger! Did you just call me c*cksucker?  Angry
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Re: can someone do something about the filth that is
Reply #52 - May 10th, 2012 at 6:17pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 9:46am:
nairbe wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 6:51am:
We all get annoyed and do a bit of name calling, never mind. But in the last few days the threads have turned toxic, and in particular the racist and bigoted  banter. I don't know if people think it funny to stir up this kind of feeling but it is appalling and denigrates all of us on this form. I feel sick when i read some of the race hate and intolerance that claim to be Australian. You are all far from Australian and need to look deep within yourselves and consider are you using you anonymity to express opinions you would not argue face to face because you know how repugnant they are.



Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out. There was a poster the other day (Adlecrow) who was sprouting the platitudes of "equality" and  "tolerance," but when I pointed out that some cultures have no time for this, he/she couldn't accept it and just resorted to irrelevant off the cuff remarks.

It is also paramount to highlight that adding "ist" on to the end of a word does not amount to any form of reasoned argument. It really just becomes a word equal to that of "c*cksucker," "bugger," or something else derogatory that in no way explains the issue under consideration.

Being offended is in no way an argument in itself. Everyone gets offended from time to time. Why should one person's "offence" be deemed more important than another's? I know that leftist types are effeminate in character so that explains why they're perpetually offended, but again, that's no argument.

Positions need a thesis statement and then evidence and/or augmentation that attempts to prove the thesis statement true. Saying "racist" doesn't cut it.


WOW, what an amazing outburst. Are you feeling sensitive about what you may have said in the past?

As you say there needs to be proof and reason to an argument, of which there is rarely any at all and none in what you have said. So let's see, here are two comments where do you think they lie in the scheme of things.

1.  those muslims are all rapists and terrorists and we don't want them.

2. the people from that country have suffered great oppression and war so may need help to make the   
    transition into our way of life.

One accuses these people of something with no point or evidence. A head line might be referenced but has nothing to do with real fact or reason as to the crime. the other points out that due to hardships faced that we are all aware of , we may need to be aware of issues they might face in making a successful transition to our way of life. They are big differences but they both raise questions based on race or religion.
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Reply #53 - May 10th, 2012 at 6:22pm
 
cods wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:23am:
appearing on Politicians Suck

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336296358
its deteriorating to the point of being scary.

at least this didnt happen in longys day.


Oh, it's not there anymore Smiley problem solved I guess.
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Reply #54 - May 10th, 2012 at 6:30pm
 
umm well yeah  - I haven't been posting much... on those....  rather nasty, and frankly, BORING topics.
I mean..Jeez, these people never give up their spite.!!  But they just go on repeating the same tripe.  I'm bored with 'em all.
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Reply #55 - May 10th, 2012 at 6:46pm
 
nairbe wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Why are topics of race automatically deemed as racist or bigoted? These are legitimate topics and have real concerns. If there is a certain race or nationality of people who is incompatible with liberal democracy then it is perfectly acceptable to point that out.


Oh right  Roll Eyes  Rubbish!!!   what'syaname?? Nothing acceptable about it - when presented in such a manner. The motive is so f'n plain....  FEAR & Hatred.

Ipso facto, a topic about race IS racist. It becomes bigoted when it involves personal opinion/comment which is entirely dedicated to perceived differences between peoples - thence to inadequacies or faults in the target peoples, and thence to an excuse to persecute them.

Such a simple UGLY process. !!! Angry Sad Sad

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Reply #56 - May 10th, 2012 at 6:55pm
 
Emma wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 6:30pm:
umm well yeah  - I haven't been posting much... on those....  rather nasty, and frankly, BORING topics.
I mean..Jeez, these people never give up their spite.!!  But they just go on repeating the same tripe.  I'm bored with 'em all.


What kind of topics would meet your approval? Perhaps you should start some?

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Reply #57 - May 10th, 2012 at 7:08pm
 
As someone said earlier.. if you want to talk about it go to the more appropriate board. Smiley
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Reply #58 - May 10th, 2012 at 7:12pm
 
and didn't my quote from ???  get id'ed as Nairbe, when it was MM who said it.??
I used the 'button',  I swear...!!6^%^%^^   ...so sorry to cast aspersions there Nairbe  - 'it weren't me, really.' I agree with YOU.
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Reply #59 - May 10th, 2012 at 7:16pm
 
Emma wrote on May 10th, 2012 at 7:08pm:
As someone said earlier.. if you want to talk about it go to the more appropriate board. Smiley


Are you talking to me? You arent very friendly are you.

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