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Question: Should i be banned for practicing my culture?

Yes, you should be banned.    
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No, you shouldnt be banned.    
  6 (50.0%)




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« Created by: BlOoDy RiPpEr on: May 7th, 2012 at 8:25am »

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Reply #15 - May 7th, 2012 at 9:47am
 
I would say no you should not be banned but you should take the advice to not use that word.

The problem is the fact that the word is most often used in a derogatory manner, there was a time when I would also use that word and it would be accepted as just an Abbreviation, Like the term Aussie.

Words like P0m and W0g were also in common usage.

I came from an Italian area and later found out that many Italians found the word a huge insult.

Though the Poms have no right of complaint as the term is usually preceded and or followed by a clearly derogatory adjective – we actually mean it to be an insult. (not really only joking – it’s the same thing).

The problem is that you never really know how the usage is either intended or received.

In the case of a forum like this it is reasonable to assume that many will see the insult and it would be much more wise to not use the term (s).
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Reply #16 - May 7th, 2012 at 10:23am
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:22am:
should i be banned for using words that are socially acceptable in my culture?


I would have thought that terms such as "abo" were used by people who lacked culture.....
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Reply #17 - May 7th, 2012 at 10:41am
 
Frances wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 10:23am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:22am:
should i be banned for using words that are socially acceptable in my culture?


I would have thought that terms such as "abo" were used by people who lacked culture.....


Abo"riginals" themselves use the word abo. Are they without culture?

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Reply #18 - May 7th, 2012 at 10:53am
 
ABO = Army Budget Office
ABBO  = Associate of the British Ballet Organisation
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Reply #19 - May 7th, 2012 at 10:58am
 
skippy. wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 9:36am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 9:23am:
chimera wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 9:12am:
Let's try Aussie Abo. That should overload the computers and crash the systems.

roflmao.. this site needs a like button... Its funny how people dont understand the word aboriginal. Its not a word that was invented for Australian indigenous people

The defernition of the word is:

Inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times; indigenous.

If i was to say Irish abo would that be offencive to an Irish person?

Like it or not abbreviating words in Australia is common practice. Most Aussies do it.

I'm well aware of what it means. what you seem to be unaware of is the Aboriginal population of this country find it offensive.If you don't like the rules of this forum, leave.



I doubt that.  It is just an abbreviation after all.

Does anyone really believe that abos themselves decided they want to be reffered to as "indigenous australians"?  Like hell - just another case of ivory tower academics making a decree from on high. 

No prizes for guessing who the *ahem* unbaised mod who threatened you with banning was.
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Reply #20 - May 8th, 2012 at 6:06am
 
There would be no problem with using "Abo" as an abbreviation if we hadn't already trashed the word. The word "Abo" has negative connotations from years of being used pejoratively. We turned it into an offensive word. I don't believe you should be banned, but It wouldn't hurt for you to show a little respect. Continuing to use words that cause offense exposes either a mean spiritedness or a desire to perpetuate bigotry.
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Reply #21 - May 8th, 2012 at 7:53am
 
muso wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 10:53am:
ABO = Army Budget Office
ABBO  = Associate of the British Ballet Organisation



ABBO = Serious contender to be the worst PM Australia ever may have.
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Reply #22 - May 11th, 2012 at 12:47am
 
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:22am:
Well leftist political correctness has reared its ugly head on this site.

In recent weeks i had a topic that i used the word 'abo' in the title.

My self being of Australian colonial decent. the abbreviation of the word Aborigine 'abo' is very much part of my culture and heritage. Now after explaining my position to moderators on this site i have been threatened with being banned if i continue to use this word.

When i used the word in a topic is was not used in an offensive manner, it was used as an abbreviation due to limits on topic headings lengths, My Question is should i be banned for using words that are socially acceptable in my culture?




What if an Abo called you  white trailor trash ?
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Reply #23 - May 11th, 2012 at 9:03am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2012 at 12:47am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:22am:
Well leftist political correctness has reared its ugly head on this site.

In recent weeks i had a topic that i used the word 'abo' in the title.

My self being of Australian colonial decent. the abbreviation of the word Aborigine 'abo' is very much part of my culture and heritage. Now after explaining my position to moderators on this site i have been threatened with being banned if i continue to use this word.

When i used the word in a topic is was not used in an offensive manner, it was used as an abbreviation due to limits on topic headings lengths, My Question is should i be banned for using words that are socially acceptable in my culture?




What if an Abo called you  white trailor trash ?


This is australia. Its not something an aboriginal is likely to say. Perhaps caravan trash?

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Reply #24 - May 18th, 2012 at 12:40pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 10:41am:
Frances wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 10:23am:
BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 7th, 2012 at 8:22am:
should i be banned for using words that are socially acceptable in my culture?


I would have thought that terms such as "abo" were used by people who lacked culture.....


Abo"riginals" themselves use the word abo. Are they without culture?

SOB


I've never heard any.

Still - I don't think anyone should be banned from using the term. People stop using words when they see their reaction on others - when they see how dumb some words make them appear.

If you ban words or language, people just react and dig their heels in. Or it goes underground.

Many Aboriginal languages went this way when they were banned in school and missions. As did the deaf sign language, Auslan. As did European languages like Welsh.

In a way, this is why racism still exists. It's also why nationalism and religion has resurfaced stronger in places like the former Soviet Union, a place where these things were banned. Banning language/culture/knowledge only makes them more powerful.

Abo is just one word, but it points to a whole sign system, a set of power relations.

It's also why the whole political correctness argument is flawed. All humans do is swap one form of political correctness for another.

Back in the 1950s, Abo was an endeering slang term. Aboriginal was seen as an academic term and people wanted to make it more user-friendly. When you shorten a name, it indicates familiarity and closeness - like calling David Dave, or Damien Damo.

However, before long, the term Abo became loaded. It wasn't the fault of the signifier itself, but the political discourse around Aboriginal issues. You ALWAYS get new names and labels when knowledge and power shifts.

Using the term Abo reacts against this shift, which is why it seems sinister and racist. Abo was never intended to be a racist term in itself (unlike black person, boong, koon, etc), but it's use represents an unwillingness to respect the shift in power.

The most powerful censorship tool is social interaction - but, of course, it depends on who you interact with.

Banning does the exact opposite.
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Reply #25 - May 18th, 2012 at 12:57pm
 
i got accused of raping abo kids by an abo with a buzz saw on wednseday

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Reply #26 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:47pm
 
You shouldn't rape abos then, Imperium.

Maybe you should stick to your own kind.
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Reply #27 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:23pm
 
that would be racist though

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Reply #28 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:46pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 2:23pm:
that would be racist though



That's true, Impo.
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