Geeze i get a laugh how all the insecure christians use the atheist thread to sprook their fear of truth.

muso wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 11:29am:



muso,

That Psalm you quoted was from Jewish scripture [....and not exclusively a Christian scripture ].

And in no way was it my intent to denigrate the Jewish people [....in particular.           ].




My intent in this forum has always been to cast all people, being Christians, or atheists, or Jewish people as being from the same moral mould.

i.e. Corruptible.

A corruption which all of our lives bear witness to.

muso wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 11:29am:


Yes, well, i'm not pleading ignorance in that regard......seeing that i can read and write English, and i know which way is up.

But what is your excuse muso, for ignoring what is happening in front of your nose every day ?
[i.e. i refer to the EVERYDAY persecution, oppression and slaughter, of non-moslems, in many Sharia jurisdictions.              just 1 of 1000's of examples... http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/pakistan-hindu-girl-rinkle-kumari-kidnapped-an...]

Oh yes, your moslem friends have convinced you of their moslem friendship towards you......even though it is Australian secular law which is protecting you from their true 'affection', and not Sharia Law which is your protection.

But what about that oppression and slaughter, of non-moslems, in many Sharia jurisdictions, doesn't such conduct outrage them, being 'moderate' moslems ???

Why is it that virtuous moslems [including your moslem friends], they will not raise their voices, against such actions, committed in the name of ISLAM ???




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muso wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 11:29am:



Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Psalms 37:27
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28  For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2  He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3  He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4  In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5  He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.



Hey muso,

Remember tolerance [not judging wrongdoing] always trumps, standing up for what you know is right.
/sarc off


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26  For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?



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Hey muso,

As human beings, if we are walking on the street, and we see some wickedness or violence being perpetrated should we speak out ?      [if a young woman was being assaulted on the street, would you look the other way as you passed by ?]

Should we try to intercede, and protect those who are being oppressed ?

Or, should we look the other way as we pass by [because we are taught not to 'judge' the actions and conduct of others] ?



And if we see something evil in the world, shouldn't we [as human beings] have the courage, to speak up ?

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then

they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked

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But hey, you are not a 'judge' of 'right' or 'wrong', are you muso ?

Your opinion, is that you have no right to 'judge' what others do.

Who taught that to you muso ???





Hey muso,

If today you believe that 'silence is golden',   ......when the oppressor comes to your door, who will, or should, speak up for you, or a member of your family ???





Thomas Mann

muso wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 11:01pm:


Y'know Muso, my position is that ALL religion is intolerant; that's the point. All religions are capable of going off at the deep end. The Abrahamic religions all have such a tendency to ultra violence you'd think they worshipped Reggie and Ronnie Kray.

Having said that, I think that denial of a current militant tendency in Islam, or comparing it to Phelps or Kony is a bit silly. There's a 'Jihad' underway and we have ourselves a problem.   

muso wrote on May 14^th, 2012 at 2:46pm:


Yes but, I think that anybody who immigrates to Australia should sign a commitment  to uphold the secular values of Australia. Including the complete intellectual and sexual freedom available to women in this country. And the reason I'd like that commitment is almost entirely due to Muslim values. Women in our society have struggled for equality for well over a hundred years. They shouldn't have to start back at square one because of some namby pamby liberal attitudes regarding religious freedom.

What the hell is so wonderful about relgions culture anyway? It's always a wafer and cheap wine, they don't say "this is todays special given to you in remembrance of me" do they. Religious art is in stasis and anyway Michaelangelo could have done a lot better with painting roofs left to his own imaginings. And while the music in black southern baptist churches isn't too bad it's not Miles Davis is it?

Yadda, I apologise profusely. I accidentally overwrote your post and then  had to delete it because I lost the original text.

muso wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 8:13am:



muso,

Your apology is accepted.

No biggy.