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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #15 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:33pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:27pm:

Some people argue that it is selfish to bring kids into such a world. They could be wrong or they could be right, but if we keep following the same path, I wouldn't want to see my kids suffer the consequences of a political and financial tsuname, wars, famine and disease.....horrid.

Good on you people who opt out of having children. You are selfless.

Doesn't that depend on why they opt out in the first place?

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #16 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm If children are our future.....What future would we have without them??? The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children. Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #17 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm: If children are our future.....What future would we have without them??? The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children. Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945) Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen! SOB
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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #18 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I was of the belief it will be paid every year no matter who is in office and it is an on going commitment to help parents with school age children meet costs.....If you have no children you do not have the cost of funding their education which is quite expensive.....The question is can the money be spent in a better way than giving parents direct assistance???

Cool

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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #19 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I thought it was a one off payment to help with the expenses of raising kids?

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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #20 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:48pm

Johnsmith wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I thought it was a one off payment to help with the expenses of raising kids?

Reminds me of the woman in a classroom last week. When asked about the boat photo the child bought for "news" the mother replies......"We bought it with the Baby Bonus".

Some people nearly choked especially when their families were working and could not afford to pay bills let alone buy a boat.

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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #21 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:50pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I was of the belief it will be paid every year no matter who is in office and it is an on going commitment to help parents with school age children meet costs.....If you have no children you do not have the cost of funding their education which is quite expensive.....The question is can the money be spent in a better way than giving parents direct assistance???

Cool

Gee!!!! And to think I went to work to pay for my kids education and life.........

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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #22 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:51pm

beware wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:48pm:

Johnsmith wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I thought it was a one off payment to help with the expenses of raising kids?

Reminds me of the woman in a classroom last week. When asked about the boat photo the child bought for "news" the mother replies......"We bought it with the Baby Bonus".

Some people nearly choked especially when their families were working and could not afford to pay bills let alone buy a boat.

boats are very good for kids ...gets them out into the fresh air, fresh fish for dinner , a bit ofd swimming... I'd say clever parents, thinking long term

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #23 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:52pm The baby bonus was introduced because John Howard wanted to give an incentive to wealthy woman to have babies - apparently Liberal voters weren't procreating rapidly enough for his liking.
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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #24 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:56pm

falah wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:52pm:

The baby bonus was introduced because John Howard wanted to give an incentive to wealthy woman to have babies - apparently Liberal voters weren't procreating rapidly enough for his liking.

It backfired on him. He thought he'd get a flood of little Liberals, but he ended up getting little lefties by the thousands.

Big nations=big poverty.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #25 - May 6^th, 2012 at 2:56pm falah wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:52pm: The baby bonus was introduced because John Howard wanted to give an incentive to wealthy woman to have babies - apparently Liberal voters weren't procreating rapidly enough for his liking. The baby bonus was introduced to get women with babies to vote for john Howard. SOB
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Re: The Non Baby Bonus
Reply #26 - May 6^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

beware wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:50pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:42pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

If children are our future.....What future would we have without them???

The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)

Giving their parents a 1 off payment to vote a particular way is brilliant! Go next gen!

SOB

I was of the belief it will be paid every year no matter who is in office and it is an on going commitment to help parents with school age children meet costs.....If you have no children you do not have the cost of funding their education which is quite expensive.....The question is can the money be spent in a better way than giving parents direct assistance???

Cool

Gee!!!! And to think I went to work to pay for my kids education and life.........

So did I.....The question is should parents of school age children be given government assistance with their education or could the money be spent on something else more deserving???

Huh

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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #27 - May 6^th, 2012 at 3:12pm I see the LABOR PARTIES AT 27% 27% 27% TIME TO FUMIGATE THE LODGE
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #28 - May 6^th, 2012 at 3:13pm FRED. wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 3:12pm: I see the LABOR PARTIES AT 27% 27% 27% TIME TO FUMIGATE THE LODGE Hey,Fred ,where ya been?
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: The Non Baby Bonus Reply #29 - May 6^th, 2012 at 3:17pm FRED. wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 3:12pm: I see the LABOR PARTIES AT 27% 27% 27% TIME TO FUMIGATE THE LODGE You've got it in the bag, eh Fred. Good on you. Yep, you've got Labor beat no worries at all. Just like you did in 1993. Couldn't lose that election either.
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