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Reply #45 - May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

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Reply #46 - May 16^th, 2012 at 8:13pm

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

With the Greens rising in the polls and looking to get yet another Senate seat how does Abbott think he will get any regressive policies through the senate?
The Greens are all we have left between an idiotic and incompetent Labor Party and a regressive hate mongering power hungry Coalition

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Reply #47 - May 16^th, 2012 at 8:20pm

adelcrow wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

With the Greens rising in the polls and looking to get yet another Senate seat how does Abbott think he will get any regressive policies through the senate?
The Greens are all we have left between an idiotic and incompetent Labor Party and a regressive hate mongering power hungry Coalition

The Greens are stagnant. Aren't they invariably around the 12% mark, give or take?

I despise them even more than I do Labor. I hope that Labor realises its mistake from being seen too close to them, and distances itself from them. Remember this, the Greens are only as powerful as they are allowed to be. If the Coalition and Labor side with each other, they are completely irrelevant.

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Re: Reasons why ALP cannot possibly win next election
Reply #48 - May 16^th, 2012 at 8:26pm

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

With the Greens rising in the polls and looking to get yet another Senate seat how does Abbott think he will get any regressive policies through the senate?
The Greens are all we have left between an idiotic and incompetent Labor Party and a regressive hate mongering power hungry Coalition

The Greens are stagnant. Aren't they invariably around the 12% mark, give or take?

I despise them even more than I do Labor. I hope that Labor realises its mistake from being seen too close to them, and distances itself from them. Remember this, the Greens are only as powerful as they are allowed to be. If the Coalition and Labor side with each other, they are completely irrelevant.

The Greens will have the balance of power in the Senate for a very long time as long as they don't betray their base like the Democrats did.
Like it or not Abbott is going to have to genuflect at the feet of the Greens if he is going to get anything done over his 3 yrs in govt.

Wot do the Nats have..2%-3%?

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Reasons why ALP cannot possibly win next election Reply #49 - May 16^th, 2012 at 11:37pm Well, all I can say is well done dna for an excellent series of posts in this thread.
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Re: Reasons why ALP cannot possibly win next election
Reply #50 - May 17^th, 2012 at 5:18am

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

I see where the new boss of the ACTU... is bringing back the good old days as well..

a bit of the biff.. marching through the streets...

is that okay???

you I take it are in favor of that... as why would he even talk like that if FAIRWORK was the B.all and end.all.

when you talk about POWER take a good look at the real POWER HUNGRY.

mmmmmmmmm another construction company goes into receivership..

FWA must be working a treat.

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Re: Reasons why ALP cannot possibly win next election
Reply #51 - May 17^th, 2012 at 10:12am

adelcrow wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

john_g wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

If Abbott does bring back Workchoices, then I will have officially lost any shred of faith in either party, and would see Abbott as the biggest hypocrite in Australia.

He doesn't exactly fill me with faith/trust/credibility, but I will take him any day over Gillard. I would probably take ANYONE over her at the moment though, so that is probably not saying much.

With the Greens rising in the polls and looking to get yet another Senate seat how does Abbott think he will get any regressive policies through the senate?
The Greens are all we have left between an idiotic and incompetent Labor Party and a regressive hate mongering power hungry Coalition

what 'rising'? they are polling 12% currently or exactly their vote at the last election. And notably, the Greens poll 2% more than they actually get votes. eg in 2010 they were polling at 14% and got 11.7%. By that measurment their vote has DROPPED. and every state election since 2010 has shown a green vote LOWER than 2010 as well.

'rising'? only in your dreams.

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