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Abbott's 200% Electricity Price Rise
May 3rd, 2012 at 7:33am
 
However, there is a major challenge waiting for Tony Abbott once he moves in to The Lodge – and it relates to the fact that the Coalition now controls government in Australia’s three largest electricity-consuming regions: New South Wales, Queensland and Victoria.

Customers in these states consume almost 79 per cent of household power. They consume slightly more than 79 per cent of business power.

Seven million of nine million Australian residential customers are in the three states. Almost 900,000 out of 1.8 million business account holders are based there, too.

This is where the twin issues of energy security and end-user prices have their biggest impact.

Assume Abbott wins a majority big enough to carry him through the next two elections – that is to 2018-19 or 2020-21 depending on whether he goes for a double dissolution to sort out a recalcitrant Senate.

This means the states – NSW in 2015 and 2019, Victoria in 2014 and 2018 and Queensland in 2016 and 2020 -– will all be going to the polls during the Abbott ascendancy, with energy costs continuing to be a “white hot” issue, as Barry O’Farrell described it last year.

Federal governments have major influence over electricity supply – through measures like a carbon price, a renewable energy target, national energy efficiency measures and national standards for power station carbon intensity. They can also buy in to state generation by paying coal plants to close down (as Gillard proposes to do).

But they can’t force measures – like smart meter roll-outs and time-of-use charges – to drive a change in peak power demand, perhaps the biggest single issue impacting user prices through network charges. Nor can they force the privatisation of state-owned businesses. They can’t force the private sector to invest. They don’t control state project planning processes.

Moreover, they may chair the CoAG ministerial council on energy, but it is the group as a whole that has to agree on changes, for example, to the national energy law or the east coast electricity market rules.

What all this boils down to is that an Abbott government will need to work with the Baillieu, O’Farrell and Newman governments – as well as with the other states – to achieve some key changes to electricity supply over the next decade.

No matter how the Greens and their camp followers may howl, two issues dominate the energy supply landscape: reliable delivery of user needs, and prices.

During the tenure of an Abbott government – assuming a huge victory next year and two or three further successes riding on that initial big majority, pretty well the story of his predecessors, Malcolm Fraser and John Howard – it is highly likely that east coast electricity prices will double and that gas prices will too.


http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/energy-policy-state-governmen...
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Reply #1 - May 3rd, 2012 at 7:37am
 
how do these people explain all the price increases we are getting now and have been for ages???

are you looking forward to the 1st July the traditional date for power increases.. the ones they claim we have to have if we want maintenance done. Grin
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Reply #2 - May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38am
 
So will Abbott's Nuclear Agenda lift electricity prices even higher?


Surely Abbott is planning a Nuke Tax ?
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Reply #3 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:02am
 
____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38am:
So will Abbott's Nuclear Agenda lift electricity prices even higher?


Surely Abbott is planning a Nuke Tax ?


Private enterprise will save us all from the boogieman......... Cheesy
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Reply #4 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:08am
 
Swagman wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:02am:
____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38am:
So will Abbott's Nuclear Agenda lift electricity prices even higher?


Surely Abbott is planning a Nuke Tax ?


Private enterprise will save us all from the boogieman......... Cheesy




You mean like the coal and gas private enterprise whom taxpayers subsidise.

i.e poor little rich Liberal Party leader replacement, Clive Palmer.



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Reply #5 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21am
 
Concerned about power bills are we Green boy? Why not put up a topic on power price increases if Greens goon Christine Milne's nightmare comes true.

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Your senators, Christine Milne and Sarah Hanson-Young, floated rates of $40 and $100 per tonne this week as a possible price on carbon, which would send hard-working Australians' power bills soaring.

[...]
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/stop-this-man-ruining-the-nation/story-fn6bn88w-1226059321920


How 'bout a 500% increase Christine? Green boy you have no cred.
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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:34am
 
salad in wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:21am:
Concerned about power bills are we Green boy? Why not put up a topic on power price increases if Greens goon Christine Milne's nightmare comes true.

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Your senators, Christine Milne and Sarah Hanson-Young, floated rates of $40 and $100 per tonne this week as a possible price on carbon, which would send hard-working Australians' power bills soaring.

[...]
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/stop-this-man-ruining-the-nation/story-fn6bn88w-1226059321920


How 'bout a 500% increase Christine? Green boy you have no cred.




Renewable energies are reducing in cost. While Liberal's Abbott replacement leader and Anti CIA agent, Clive Palmer's cash cow : Coal, isn't going to get cheaper.


Electricity will be cheaper when it's Greener.
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Reply #7 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:34am
 
____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38am:
So will Abbott's Nuclear Agenda lift electricity prices even higher?


Surely Abbott is planning a Nuke Tax ?


So what, you were in favour of Nukes, last month...

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Greens_Win wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:58am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:56am:
adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:55am:
Even Maggie Thatcher was smart enough to close down the coal mines

Didn't the British go with nuclear power?



The Neo Cons are scared of pushing nuclear.

So looks like Nukes have missed their window of opportunity because of the Hard Right.

I think the Greens are more scared of splitting atoms than anyone else...


Nuclear would of been the perfect platform for Abbott to gain traction on climate change action. He missed the nuke bus and now is revealed yet again as a AGW science denier.


Will Malcolm Turnbull push Nukes when he replaces Abbott.

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Reply #8 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:37am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:34am:
____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 7:38am:
So will Abbott's Nuclear Agenda lift electricity prices even higher?


Surely Abbott is planning a Nuke Tax ?


So what, you were in favour of Nukes, last month...

Was I?

Gee these hard righters are pulling claims out of their butts today.

If I recall, I was stirring, not supporting nuke nutters of the hard right.



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Greens_Win wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:58am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:56am:
adelcrow wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 9:55am:
Even Maggie Thatcher was smart enough to close down the coal mines

Didn't the British go with nuclear power?



The Neo Cons are scared of pushing nuclear.

So looks like Nukes have missed their window of opportunity because of the Hard Right.

I think the Greens are more scared of splitting atoms than anyone else...


Nuclear would of been the perfect platform for Abbott to gain traction on climate change action. He missed the nuke bus and now is revealed yet again as a AGW science denier.


Will Malcolm Turnbull push Nukes when he replaces Abbott.


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Reply #9 - May 3rd, 2012 at 9:48am
 
A carbon tax will cause a rise in utilities bills for families.

Fact.

Accepted by everyone (who is sane - which may exclude our Kiwi friend).
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Reply #10 - May 3rd, 2012 at 10:11am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:48am:
A carbon tax will cause a rise in utilities bills for families.

Fact.

Accepted by everyone (who is sane - which may exclude our Kiwi friend).




Inaction on AGW/ Renewable Energy will cause Cost of Utilities to Rise for Families.


Abbott wants higher energy costs for all Australians.

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____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 10:11am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:48am:
A carbon tax will cause a rise in utilities bills for families.

Fact.

Accepted by everyone (who is sane - which may exclude our Kiwi friend).




Inaction on AGW/ Renewable Energy will cause Cost of Utilities to Rise for Families.


Abbott wants higher energy costs for all Australians.



Carbon tax will cause energy bills to rise.
Fact.
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Reply #12 - May 3rd, 2012 at 10:18am
 
Let's start with a few facts:

1) the article refers to a 100% price rise (double), not 200% (triple)
2) the article is a prediction on prices which have proven to be woeful over last decade
3) the time period is 10-12 years, not next year


Perspective, context and accuracy: the bane of the Greens.
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Reply #13 - May 3rd, 2012 at 10:21am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 10:12am:
____ wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 10:11am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 3rd, 2012 at 9:48am:
A carbon tax will cause a rise in utilities bills for families.

Fact.

Accepted by everyone (who is sane - which may exclude our Kiwi friend).




Inaction on AGW/ Renewable Energy will cause Cost of Utilities to Rise for Families.


Abbott wants higher energy costs for all Australians.



Carbon tax will cause energy bills to rise.
Fact.



Not as high as Abbott wants energy costs to rise,


Carbon costs cease once Green energy is carbon neutral.

Clive Palmer's Coal electricity will never be carbon neutral.

So will never be cheap.
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Reply #14 - May 3rd, 2012 at 10:22am
 
There is 130 years worth of coal to use.

What's the rush to change?

It's cheaper than renewables and also if we have no carbon tax we don't need to raise its cost.
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