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Reply #15 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:54am

Maqqa wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

But it is Abbott's fault for this government running it's full term.

Abbott is too gutless to call a No Confidence Vote.

Because Abbott is a coward.

Abbott has no policies

Abbott wants an election so to have another two after in quick succession because he can not govern. He will not govern, because he is a gutless twit.

Please look at Hansard before making such a comment

Why

Abbott is running around like a cut chook wanting a new election yet is gutless in refusing to call a No Confidence Vote.

It Is Abbott's fault this government will run full term.

Abbott's fault because he has No Confidence in himself.

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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #16 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:55am

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

But it is Abbott's fault for this government running it's full term.

Abbott is too gutless to call a No Confidence Vote.

Because Abbott is a coward.

Abbott has no policies

Abbott wants an election so to have another two after in quick succession because he can not govern. He will not govern, because he is a gutless twit.

Please look at Hansard before making such a comment

Why

Abbott is running around like a cut chook wanting a new election yet is gutless in refusing to call a No Confidence Vote.

It Is Abbott's fault this government will run full term.

Abbott's fault because he has No Confidence in himself.

Yes so you keep saying. So what, we all know everything is Abbotts fault to a progressive. Nothing new to see there.

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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #17 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:01am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

But it is Abbott's fault for this government running it's full term.

Abbott is too gutless to call a No Confidence Vote.

Because Abbott is a coward.

Abbott has no policies

Abbott wants an election so to have another two after in quick succession because he can not govern. He will not govern, because he is a gutless twit.

Please look at Hansard before making such a comment

Why

Abbott is running around like a cut chook wanting a new election yet is gutless in refusing to call a No Confidence Vote.

It Is Abbott's fault this government will run full term.

Abbott's fault because he has No Confidence in himself.

Yes so you keep saying. So what, we all know everything is Abbotts fault to a progressive. Nothing new to see there.

clever pollies dont force a no-confidence motion until they are sure they can win. isa there ANYTHING about practical politics that you actually understand?

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Reply #18 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:05am

We need an early election because the current situation is untenable. The current government stance is anti-business, and we need to restore confidence to the economy, although the dollar needs to drop another 10 cents against the greenback to make any impact domestically.

Environmental issues are important, but right now, we need to restore some stability, and I think the Libs have the ability to do that. If they can sort out their leadership issues, then that will also help. The Libs will find it difficult to dismantle the renewable energy legislation, which they themselves brought in. There are too many industry interests at stake here, even with carbon trading.

The Australian market is crawling right now and it shouldn't be. The Dow is over 13,000 again, and the All Ords are stuck at 4400. It should be over 5000. We had all the right conditions for a rapid recovery, but that isn't happening. Now I tend to agree with PN that the long term outlook is grim, but if we don't restore confidence soon, we'll miss the last boat.

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Reply #19 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:19am

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

We need an early election because the current situation is untenable. The current government stance is anti-business, and we need to restore confidence to the economy, although the dollar needs to drop another 10 cents against the greenback to make any impact domestically.

Environmental issues are important, but right now, we need to restore some stability, and I think the Libs have the ability to do that. If they can sort out their leadership issues, then that will also help. The Libs will find it difficult to dismantle the renewable energy legislation, which they themselves brought in. There are too many industry interests at stake here, even with carbon trading.

The Australian market is crawling right now and it shouldn't be. The Dow is over 13,000 again, and the All Ords are stuck at 4400. It should be over 5000. We had all the right conditions for a rapid recovery, but that isn't happening. Now I tend to agree with PN that the long term outlook is grim, but if we don't restore confidence soon, we'll miss the last boat.

I don't think we need an early election, in fact I believe phony tony would stuff the economy beyond repair,and Hockey does not seem capable enough to run the economy,while Abbott is not smart enough.
What I do think is that Gillard's leadership is terminal, she should stand down to save some face. In my opinion,Smith,Crean and Carr would all be much more credible PMs than Abbott, they should have the opportunity to prove that before the government is tossed out.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Voters want early election Reply #21 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:36am Prevailing wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:24am: Your insincere comments are not welcome. So your corporate whitey sock is still banned hey,prevailing?
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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #22 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:40am

muso wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:05am:

We need an early election because the current situation is untenable. The current government stance is anti-business, and we need to restore confidence to the economy, although the dollar needs to drop another 10 cents against the greenback to make any impact domestically.

Environmental issues are important, but right now, we need to restore some stability, and I think the Libs have the ability to do that. If they can sort out their leadership issues, then that will also help. The Libs will find it difficult to dismantle the renewable energy legislation, which they themselves brought in. There are too many industry interests at stake here, even with carbon trading.

The Australian market is crawling right now and it shouldn't be. The Dow is over 13,000 again, and the All Ords are stuck at 4400. It should be over 5000. We had all the right conditions for a rapid recovery, but that isn't happening. Now I tend to agree with PN that the long term outlook is grim, but if we don't restore confidence soon, we'll miss the last boat.

What would it change really? the faces.

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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #23 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:43am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

Maqqa wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

____ wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

But it is Abbott's fault for this government running it's full term.

Abbott is too gutless to call a No Confidence Vote.

Because Abbott is a coward.

Abbott has no policies

Abbott wants an election so to have another two after in quick succession because he can not govern. He will not govern, because he is a gutless twit.

Please look at Hansard before making such a comment

Why

Abbott is running around like a cut chook wanting a new election yet is gutless in refusing to call a No Confidence Vote.

It Is Abbott's fault this government will run full term.

Abbott's fault because he has No Confidence in himself.

Yes so you keep saying. So what, we all know everything is Abbotts fault to a progressive. Nothing new to see there.

clever pollies dont force a no-confidence motion until they are sure they can win. isa there ANYTHING about practical politics that you actually understand?

A clever politician wouldn't make baseless threats.

Revealing Abbott as a stupid politician.

Come on Abbott, stop supporting Gillard and call a No Confidence Vote.

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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #25 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:47am

This whole parliament now just has the feel of it of "hanging in there for the sake of hanging in there".

It's starting to feel like NSW.

"Just hang in there, something might change, anything, you never know...."

It's like delaying the inevitable.
The problem you get is that you start to make allowances for things you wouldn't ordinarily do.
If it wasn't a hung parliament, Thomson would have been hung out to dry months ago and he would have resigned altogether.

Now we just get more dirty politicians in there voting.

It just all stinks now and it needs a new parliament and whoever wins that election, good luck to them.

I have absolutely no party allegiance. I just think its all a bit rotten now.

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Reply #26 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:52am

The ALP power brokers must be scratching their heads now.

What to do, what to do?

Gillard will lead them to oblivion at the next election, the electorate will (have already?) stop listening to her (something I find very easy).

I bet all those that voted against Rudd in the leadership challenge wish they could vote again, at least O’Lemon has voter support. If they dumped Gillard (surely they must dump her ASAP and try to regain some lost ground?) would he challenge the newly preferred PM?

As for the Lib/Nat, imagine their lead had they had Costello or Turnbull as leader, people that the dithering independents would be more likely to support as well.

The Greens will win more support from this as well (the better half is a solid Green, makes for interesting debate at our joint)

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Re: Voters want early election
Reply #28 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 10:24am

FriYAY wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

The ALP power brokers must be scratching their heads now.

What to do, what to do?

Gillard will lead them to oblivion at the next election, the electorate will (have already?) stop listening to her (something I find very easy).

I bet all those that voted against Rudd in the leadership challenge wish they could vote again, at least O’Lemon has voter support. If they dumped Gillard (surely they must dump her ASAP and try to regain some lost ground?) would he challenge the newly preferred PM?

As for the Lib/Nat, imagine their lead had they had Costello or Turnbull as leader, people that the dithering independents would be more likely to support as well.

The Greens will win more support from this as well (the better half is a solid Green, makes for interesting debate at our joint)

Undecided

If Labor had half a brain they would be throwing everything they had at attracting Turnbull to jump ship with the offer of the PMship if he did.
Lets face it, the Libs claim they dont want him, he's the best person from any party to be PM and imagine Turnbull lining up against phony Tony at the next election, it would give Labor a better than even chance. In fact Turnbull would beat Abbott, no question about it.
Lets face it, stranger things have happened, Billy Hughes springs to mind,and it would be Turnbulls chance to kick the bastards that dogged on him in his own party.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Voters want early election Reply #29 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 10:34am How much do they pay you to defend Gillard and portray Turnbull as some kind of a saint when its obvious they are all filthy.
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Question: Do you want an early election?
Yes 17 (42.5%) No 23 (57.5%) Total votes: 40 « Created by: Armchair_Politician on: Apr 30^th, 2012 at 7:30am »