freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
I remember you used to be pretty sure they were illegitimate.
I did? I'd like to see that.
I did not pass any judgement on the legitimacy of anything. I personally don't believe an accurate scale exists on which to judge such things in the current geo-political climate.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Have you softened your opposition to terrorism?
I have not softened anything, the issue is around what is defined as terrorism. My position has always been, and will always be, that the U.S and their proxies like the Zionist entity are the primary perpetrators of terrorism throughout the world. I don't know of any Muslim organisation that bases its actions on an ideology called terrorism.
The question for you fd, is do you consider it terrorism to respond to an aggressive and hostile entity that is in your land?
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Is this something to do with your belief that the west has been at war with the Muslim world for over a century?
I've provided numerous times lists of hostile actions the Western states have carried out against the Muslim world, and continues to carry out against the Muslim world over the past century or two, and still you try to frame this as "your belief"???? It's a well established fact. The only problem you have is, you think Muslims should just accept those hostilities as a natural part of the West's "energy security" and live with it.
You are a peddler of tyranny, an excuser of inhumanity and in the end an ardent supporter of terrorism.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Regarding Hiroshima, this was far more than a response to Pearl Harbour. We were at war. This was a real war, not the century long imaginary war...
What you're really saying here is "We had governments to actually carry out a co-ordinated response to the Japanese hostilities, therefore our actions were more justifiable, whilst Muslims are acting individually, because their governments are all sold out puppets, and therefore no actual war is officially declared, and their responses are illegitimate".
You might think pissing in your own pocket to keep yourself warm is smart, but others will obviously not be so impressed by it.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Hiroshima is usually weighed up against alternative future scenarios at the time, rather than as some kind of revenge.
Hiroshima was an outright deliberate attack of massive annihilation on a civilian population using WMD. Plain and simple. You can sugar coat it all you like, but at the end of the day it is what it is. 9/11 isn't even a drop in the ocean compared to Hiroshima & Nagasaki. If the 9/11 perpetrators were terrorists, then the U.S government must be the most abominable entity on earth.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
They always consider militant action as a reaction to the past, rather than in the context of what it might bring in the future.
Right, because we don't believe in just attacking people for no reason, or for greedy reasons like "energy security". Therefore the only paradigm in which we understand hostility to make any sense is in response to hostility. You on the other hand are quite comfortable with hostility for it's own sake, or for securing the energy wealth of others.
You present yourself well in this statement fd.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
I doubt Osama's intended outcome of 9/11 was the west invading Afghanistan, deposing the Taliban..
Right... it was just a nice way of saying "get the hell out of our land you mongrels".
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
and setting up a democracy.
You still believe this tripe?
Btw did anyone here happen to catch
Restrepo the other night? Was a very interesting watch, especially at the end when they mentioned when the valley finally was taken back over by the Talibaan.
freediver wrote on Apr 28
th, 2012 at 11:46am:
You need some serious mental block to think that picking a fight with the most powerful nation on earth is a good idea.
You will learn one day, the Muslim fears nothing but his Creator. Powerful nations come and go.
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