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Reply #30 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:16pm
 
How does the average australian beenfit?

Fewer jobs, higher living costs, stretched infrastructure, more congestion.

Doesn't sound like theres a whole lot in it for Aussie Joe.
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Reply #31 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:17pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:16pm:
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meanwhile, we'll import these type of 'skilled" people.  hey. they've got a piece of paper that says they're qualified - whos gonna argue?



They won't last in the job if they're not up to the tasks.

A smart business won't retain people like that.



So then they go on the dole. 

Great outcome.
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Reply #32 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:22pm
 
I live in a country (and from a school of thought) that you do not reward failure.

There is no place in this world for babying the weak.
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Reply #33 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:24pm
 
... wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:16pm:
... wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
meanwhile, we'll import these type of 'skilled" people.  hey. they've got a piece of paper that says they're qualified - whos gonna argue?



They won't last in the job if they're not up to the tasks.

A smart business won't retain people like that.



So then they go on the dole. 

Great outcome.



OK, so you don't want them in work, and you don't want them receiving welfare.

What do you want then?  An end to immigration?
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Reply #34 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:27pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:22pm:
I live in a country (and from a school of thought) that you do not reward failure.

There is no place in this world for babying the weak.


Then we're speaking the same language.
But I also come from a school of thought whereby a country places the interests of its own citizens above those of blowins. 
It'll pay off in the long run to invest in the skills of the next generation of australians.
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Reply #35 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:31pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:24pm:
... wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:16pm:
... wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:01pm:
meanwhile, we'll import these type of 'skilled" people.  hey. they've got a piece of paper that says they're qualified - whos gonna argue?



They won't last in the job if they're not up to the tasks.

A smart business won't retain people like that.



So then they go on the dole. 

Great outcome.



OK, so you don't want them in work, and you don't want them receiving welfare.

What do you want then?  An end to immigration?



A heavy reduction in the amount of immigration. I certainyl don't want another 30,000 on top of our existing record immigration levels.  That much is obvious from the opening post.

Adding 1% to our population (which is already considered by some to be nearly double what the country can sustain) through migration alone every year, plus births - how does that benefit average Aussie Joe?  As I've already said - fewer jobs, higher living costs, fewer resources and stretched infrastructure, not to mention a growing underclass.
Whether they are skilled or not makes little differnce in many facets - skilled or unskilled they still require housing, food, water, transport, essential services etc.

But so long as big business is making their billions, we should just suck it up.  Angry
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Reply #36 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:49pm
 
This immigration insanity is unsustainable and greed based it has to be stopped for the nations sake and our people.  We have to stop those unskilled bludgers addicted to us being an importing nation.
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Reply #37 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:51pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:49pm:
We have to stop those unskilled bludgers ...



How?

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Reply #38 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:56pm
 
This importing skills is killing Australian free enterprise and small business.  This is all about corporate Greed, its destroying the nation, for the sake of subsidizing corporate people who are not even skilled enough to wipe their own bums.
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Reply #39 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:58pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:51pm:
Prevailing wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:49pm:
We have to stop those unskilled bludgers ...



How?

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/06/28/1650093/boganmain-420x0.jpg

I am talking about you and the rest of the unskilled corporate class who expect to be subsidized by the cheep use of skilled labor.
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Reply #40 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:00pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:56pm:
This importing skills is killing Australian free enterprise and small business.  This is all about corporate Greed, its destroying the nation, for the sake of subsidizing corporate people who are not even skilled enough to wipe their own bums.



A potential job opportunity for uncle meat?
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Reply #41 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:02pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
I am talking about you and the rest of the unskilled corporate class who expect to be subsidized by the cheep use of skilled labor.


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Um, you've got me all wrong I'm afraid.

I'm employed in the trade union movement.

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Reply #42 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:05pm
 
... wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Prevailing wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 4:56pm:
This importing skills is killing Australian free enterprise and small business.  This is all about corporate Greed, its destroying the nation, for the sake of subsidizing corporate people who are not even skilled enough to wipe their own bums.



A potential job opportunity for uncle meat?



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Reply #43 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
If a few lazy unskilled corporate people want to drive down the cost of skilled labor should we as a nation be subsidizing these useless people to do so?  Corporate Greed and the importation economy is rotting Australia from the inside out and creating unsustainable mediocrity.  Most of these people cant even fix their own lawn mower or change oil in a car, and you want to keep importing skills to subsidize them in their uselessness?
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Reply #44 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 5:18pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 1:21pm:
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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 26th, 2012 at 1:11pm:
There's nothing wrong with a high migrant intake in my opinion.

It's about quality and not quantity.

If Australia brings in the right type of migrant, then I have no issue with it.


230,000 is 1% of the entire countrys popualtion added each and every year.  Compound that over a decade or 2, and you're really overloading our already stretched infrastructure and resources.

And of course , every migrant that comes into fill a vacancy, is one less aussie getting their foot in the door.  Cry



If the Aussie is smart enough he'll take the role.
I believe in open borders for skilled migration.

I have never spent longer than 3 years in one country since I started working.
It's good for business.

We don't need to bring in deadsh*ts or manual labour people, they add no value.
But skilled migrants from culturally cohesive and educated backgrounds are welcome for me.




so leave the dead poo jobs to the aussies.. I get it..what we need is balance..if we only allow skilled people in eventually we will have more skilled than work.... yet possibly your garbage bin wont be picked up..get real andrei.

you seem to look down on the peasants from

we would all like to sit behia lofty height.....well I can tell you life without our cleaners and hotel staff. and garbage collectors would be pure hell

we would all like to sit behind a desk...churning out figures and information.. but somehow the world doesnt revolve around that..well mine doesnt anyway.
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