... wrote on Apr 26
th, 2012 at 1:38pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 26
th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
... wrote on Apr 26
th, 2012 at 1:29pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 26
th, 2012 at 1:24pm:
... wrote on Apr 26
th, 2012 at 1:19pm:
And of course , every migrant that comes into fill a vacancy, is one less aussie getting their foot in the door.
Australians are
also invited to fill the vacancies.
The positions are given to the most suitably skilled candidates.
Nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that?
I suppose so long as your talking from the point of view of the business, that'd be true.
But society is more than just business.
Why do you not want to have the best people in the skilled positions?
I competed (as a British citizen) with people from Canada for a role in Montreal and with Americans for my current role in Cali.
It's about having the right person in for the role.
The country is better - it has a better person in the role, the education level has real competition to improve and we get the tax revenue for higher earners into the country.
If you want to just give Aussies jobs, where is the competition to improve?
No, not for skilled migration.
Skilled workers from cohesive countries, with a strong education are net assets to the country.
I am a big fan and I practice what I preach.
Do you think big biz are looking for the
best person, or the
cheapest person?
Becasue thats' what it boils down to - it's more expensive to train an aussie than it is to import a filipino (whos qualification/expertise may not even be relevant to the australian market, in which case they're certainly not the best person for the job, just the most convenient.)
You know damn well I'm not saying to just "give aussies jobs" but where is the investment in our future? is the fate of a native born aussie doomed to be shovelling poo while blowins swoop in, loot the joint and fly off?
Don't you think australians deserve to catch a break in their own country?
Having been for some time the Finance head for divisions in the multi-nationals you talk about I can tell you that you're half right and half wrong.
We have a two way strategy.
For manual labor, low skill intensive processes - it is all about cost.
Yes if we can get a $500 per year Indian to do the role we've been paying a bloke in Adelaide $45k per annum to do - then we'll take the Indian.
But we're not going to do it in Australia either - we move the process to Chennai and did so.
I am talking about skilled migration here.
This is not about cost - but about skillset and quality.
It's best understood when looking at Porter's Cost leadership strategy.
It's low cost in unskilled and product differentiation in the skilled workforce.
We'll pay more in the skilled area for the better person.
We'll not pay more in the unskilled area.
I am not talking about unskilleds. No I don't think they should be allowed in at all.
I don't even support family migration for this lot - they take roles that exist in Australia for no value add. Keep them out.
But for goodness sake, open the borders for skilled migrants. Australia to be fair, pretty much does. As did Canada in my experience.
You're not comparing what I am saying correctly.