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Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:49pm
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/money/interest-rates/abbotts-slip-of-the-tongue...

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The inflation rate for the 12 months to the end of March was just 1.6 per cent compared to 3.1 per cent for the same period last year, the bureau said.
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There were big rises in the prices for pharmaceuticals and petrol, but falls in the cost of fruit, furniture, overseas travel and overseas accommodation produced by the high Australian exchange rate.

The Government will also credit its promise for a Budget surplus to be announced on May 8 for any Reserve Bank of Australia rate reduction.

The RBA has used interest rates to keep inflation under control. The low numbers today means the central bank is now more likely to relax interest rates when it meets next Tuesday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott was a week out when talking about the cost of borrowing being cut, apparently confusing the release of inflation data with the Reserve Bank's board meeting.

He told reporters today: "Should the Reserve Bank lower interest rates today, that will be welcomed.

"But that obviously is a matter for the bank."

Treasurer Wayne Swan lept onto the slip of the tongue to accuse the Opposition of economic confusion.

"It's no surprise Tony Abbott has no idea when interest rate decisions are being taken by the Reserve Bank," Mr Swan wrote on Twitter.

"After all, Abbott and co had no idea how much it hurt families when rates went up ten times in a row under the Liberals."

And you rightards want this imbecile known as phony tony to have control of our economy,Abbott thinks 10 interest rate rises in a row is good economic management. You rightards must love working families having to pay for higher mortgages and lower wages.
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Reply #1 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm
 
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.
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Reply #2 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

Yet EVERY indicator proves you wrong.
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Reply #3 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

I think we all know that mining is growing a lot faster than everything else actually doochebag!!

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Reply #4 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:55pm
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

Yet EVERY indicator proves you wrong.

...except the one saying mining is growing at multiples of everything else!

STAGNATION IS DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #5 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:55pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

I think we all know that mining is growing a lot faster than everything else actually doochebag!!

  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I didn't say that my insane friend.
I said the mining boom is masking an otherwise not particularly pretty picture for Australia.
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Reply #6 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:55pm
 
The weaker than expected growth rate was disappointing, it is better when the Treasury gets it right for planning but the rest is excellent. Pity it is all for nothing as Abbott will destroy everything within 12 months of getting power by ripping the heart out of all the planned and executed reform. Then after he has stuffed it and we are miles behind the world the next government will have to try and play catch up as Hawke had to after the mess Howard left as Treasurer.
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Reply #7 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

Yet EVERY indicator proves you wrong.


Do you include the construction industry in those indicators?
Have a look at them.
I was chatting to a guy the other day who works in construction in Sydney and he painted a frightening picture of what they are going through.

Companies are pricing $0 to get the contracts and trying to make money on the materials.
Why?
Because there is zero building going on in the large scale, so the big companies are pushing into the middle and lower markets.
Which in turn is pushing the self contractors out and to the wall.
He told me in Melbourne a sub-contractor is going bust every 3 days where he works.
He said traditional companies like Pilkington etc are getting arse-raped by the Chinese companies on price and all of the stuff is being imported now and not made.

But hey mate, you just pretend everything is all fine.
No skin off my nose, I am just telling you don't fall for the propaganda.
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Reply #8 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:55pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

I think we all know that mining is growing a lot faster than everything else actually doochebag!!

  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I didn't say that my insane friend.
I said the mining boom is masking an otherwise not particularly pretty picture for Australia.


Yes and in particular WA. But then again crap economics does not worry you look at your homeland in the Uass, it is doing so well and has been for a long time now. How long before the world realises that the US debt is so large and the government and people so conceited that the debt will never be repaid and they turn their backs on the Uass to be the next great third world under the patronage of China.
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Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:01pm
 
nairbe wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:55pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

I think we all know that mining is growing a lot faster than everything else actually doochebag!!

  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I didn't say that my insane friend.
I said the mining boom is masking an otherwise not particularly pretty picture for Australia.


Yes and in particular WA. But then again crap economics does not worry you look at your homeland in the Uass, it is doing so well and has been for a long time now. How long before the world realises that the US debt is so large and the government and people so conceited that the debt will never be repaid and they turn their backs on the Uass to be the next great third world under the patronage of China.



The USA is not my homeland. It is where I currently work and live.
I don't have intentions to be in the US for the rest of my life.

Anyway that has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever.

In the USA I just enjoy paying lower tax and having a decent cost of living at much cheaper cost right now.
It serves its purpose for me right now.
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Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

Yet EVERY indicator proves you wrong.


Do you include the construction industry in those indicators?
Have a look at them.
I was chatting to a guy the other day who works in construction in Sydney and he painted a frightening picture of what they are going through.

Companies are pricing $0 to get the contracts and trying to make money on the materials.
Why?
Because there is zero building going on in the large scale, so the big companies are pushing into the middle and lower markets.
Which in turn is pushing the self contractors out and to the wall.
He told me in Melbourne a sub-contractor is going bust every 3 days where he works.
He said traditional companies like Pilkington etc are getting arse-raped by the Chinese companies on price and all of the stuff is being imported now and not made.

But hey mate, you just pretend everything is all fine.
No skin off my nose, I am just telling you don't fall for the propaganda.


That is not based on any statistic, but on your mates personal experience  .. i doubt his experience is an indicator used by the economists in Canberra ... In my part of the world I stuggle to find tradesmen to even show up because they are that busy ... but again, thats my personal experience and not a reflection of the austrlian economy....
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Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
Who cares what they say? Is life any easier? Can you make ends meet? Are you able to scratch enough together for all the energy and water bills? Can your kids afford schoolbooks and a uniform? Do you eat actual food or poor ppl fare?

The crap they say on the media about the "economy" has no bearing to reality. They say its up sometimes they say its down other times but meanwhile the cost of living gets higher and higher and nobody is buying realestates and banks wont lend developers a cent.

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Reply #12 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
It isn't my mate you clown.

It's a guy who is a director at a building company that is in every state.
I had never met him before he sat next to me on the plane.

The commercial construction industry in Australia is not in good shape.
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Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
Who cares what they say? Is life any easier? Can you make ends meet? Are you able to scratch enough together for all the energy and water bills? Can your kids afford schoolbooks and a uniform? Do you eat actual food or poor ppl fare?

The crap they say on the media about the "economy" has no bearing to reality. They say its up sometimes they say its down other times but meanwhile the cost of living gets higher and higher and nobody is buying realestates and banks wont lend developers a cent.

SOB



These are going to go up significantly as a result of a poor Government policy.
My energy bills in the USA are much cheaper than they were in Australia and I have a bigger house and use more energy than ever before.
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Reply #14 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:59pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:54pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 2:52pm:
Australia's economy is teetering on the brink of collapse.

Whether you choose to believe that or not is your choice.

The reality the mining boom is hiding a set of fundamental indicators which are very poor on the whole.

It is not faring anywhere near as good as people would have you believe.

Yet EVERY indicator proves you wrong.


Do you include the construction industry in those indicators?
Have a look at them.
I was chatting to a guy the other day who works in construction in Sydney and he painted a frightening picture of what they are going through.

Companies are pricing $0 to get the contracts and trying to make money on the materials.
Why?
Because there is zero building going on in the large scale, so the big companies are pushing into the middle and lower markets.
Which in turn is pushing the self contractors out and to the wall.
He told me in Melbourne a sub-contractor is going bust every 3 days where he works.
He said traditional companies like Pilkington etc are getting arse-raped by the Chinese companies on price and all of the stuff is being imported now and not made.

But hey mate, you just pretend everything is all fine.
No skin off my nose, I am just telling you don't fall for the propaganda.

Most advanced economies would giver their right nut to have the economy of this country now, you go and play with your marbles and ask Obama if he'd like 5 % unemployment,low inflation, strong dollar, yuda yudda yudda. The USA have 1% mortgage rates because your economy is a bloody basket case, Japan have nil, just shows you how those economies along with much of Europe are basket cases,while Australia is among the strongest economies in the world. But dont worry, you'll be able to brag how stuffed it is soon, if phony Tony manages to get hold of this place he'll abort this economy like every thing else's he touches. We should just call him Erol.
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