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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross Reply #60 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:04pm olde.sault wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:38pm: You are the type of person who applauds crime. Nope: I deplore crime, and criminals. Not sure how you came to your ridiculous conclusion. I also deplore racists.
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Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross
Reply #61 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

olde.sault wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 1:12pm:

olde.sault wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 1:05pm:

nairbe wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

red baron wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

I can't tell you why philperth...other than the fact that those bastards had run over two women already seriously injuring one...I suppose he was just a little bit annoyed with him.

You know what, "good on him! He wanted it, HE GOT IT!"

I am fed up to the back teeth with society handling criminals with kid gloves. This is why crime is out of control...exactly why!

And if you had your way we would go back to the good old days where we had police deaths in custody with no questions and the cat of nine tails to keep them in place. The police have to remember that they are here buy the will of the community to up hold the law they are given. They are not the law and they must live by those laws just the same as the rest.

The police have many major issues to overcome like uncontrolled population growth with no consideration given to services, infrastructure and planning. This means they could be called to a house invasion only to find that because they are under staffed they are coming cross town to get there, the roads are inadequate to cope with the traffic so they are slow getting there and on arrival there is a riot going on up the street because some 16 year old's party got out of hand. Yes i get it but i also get that the police have no respect in the community because of years of over zealous treatment of minority groups, bashings, corruption and an attitude that they are the law. Over extending themselves in areas that the community don't want, being revenue raisers for the state coffers. Centralised district policing has been a complete failure and will continue to be because the community always wants something for nothing and the old police club will not change.

I've a good reason for disliking police. Here is the story.

My daughter, moving alone into a house after a marital problem, was a victim of a break-in.

She called the police. Two officers turned up. The senior of the two ordered the second to leave the premises. After a few questions to my daughter he said, "Show me your bedroom".

She led him down the hall to the bedroom but half way turned around, saying, "They didn't take anything from the bedroom. . ."

only to find herself trapped by his arms resting each side of her on the hall wall.

She ducked under one arm, took off, ran down the street and dived into someone's shrubbery.

The cop called out to her but she remained quiet until their car drove away.

She reported the matter.

As the second cop backed the word of his superior, my daughter was made out to be a liar.

She hasn't forgiven the police since, hates and distrusts them but I know that not all are bast*rds - most do their job courageously and have to swallow a lot of sh*t.

PS I forgot what the cop said when he had her trapped in the hall. It was "Nice tits".

Not all are bad like any other group of ppl but the police do tend to close ranks around thier own if theres any trouble. Doesnt seem to matter what that person did.

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Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross
Reply #62 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:22pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

You must forgive olde sault for her racist rants, 88 she is (lol) degenerative brain disease mixed with Alzheimer's....what chance? It's best to just humour her at this stage, lest she gets all riled up and does herself some damage.

A real racist ACTS OUT his hatred, while omitting a person's description because of his skin colour is patronising if not insulting.

Aborigines getting preferential treatment is definitely patronising like giving a racehorse less weight to carry because it isn't as good as the other horses.

Let me put it in another way:

Jesus said, "Forgive them O Lord because they know not what they are doing"

So, must we forgive Aborigines for stealing a car (never mind that its owner wouldn't be able to drive to work next morning) run down two women on the footpath.

We must not shoot at them, not even hurt their feelings by describing their appearance.

The world is laughing at us and you think that I'm senile?

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Reply #63 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

And now...we are in the new 'good old days'. These are the days, when Criminals drive around the City and suburbs ripping off bursts off automatic weapon fire into buidlings.

Australia is a huge place. Criminals can practically land weapons anywhere they like, along mostly unprotected coastline. It is dead easy, to get guns, drugs, bombs whatever they like into this country, simply because of its vastness.

I do not encourage Police brutality. And I can tell you that the Officer involved in giving it to that Criminal, who had already been shot, will be for the high jump.

However, Police are getting involved in an increasingly more violent situations on our streets.

It is 'their' lives on the line, not yours sitting in the comfort of your lounge room, watching in the coolness and wisdom of hindsight 'what they should have done'.

When the sh.t is going down. You don't have time to sit down and work out a plan, on best method of handling it.

When it's a sh..tstorm, you roll your sleeves up, get in there and do your best.

When that happens, the adrenaline is pumping through your veins, no differently than a soldier in action.

Having been both a cop and a veteran. I am in a good place to make that comment.

Happy Anzac Day!

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross Reply #64 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:32pm olde.sault wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 4:22pm: So, must we forgive Aborigines for stealing a car ... Absolutely not. And nobody in this forum is suggesting that we should.
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Reply #65 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:49pm

Why is it pertinent that some of them are indigenous?

Well, if you treat them just like you treat everyone else and ignore their Aboriginality - that's racists, so the remedy is affirmative action, extra funding and targeted additional support for Aborigines.

If you notice their Aboriginality but question it (a la Bolt) you are guilty of hurting their feelings.

If you notice their Aboriginality without questioning it - as in the OP - you are also guilty of something or other.

SO the rule with Aboriginality is that you are guilty, as a white fella, no matter what you do or don't say about it.

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Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross
Reply #66 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

olde.sault wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

You are the type of person who applauds crime.

Nope: I deplore crime, and criminals. Not sure how you came to your ridiculous conclusion.

I also deplore racists.

So do I, Meathead!

I sure hate the Ku Klux Klan but there is a big difference between stalking and killing someone who is of a different colour and my criticism of races that drop too many children for others to support and, by not properly bringing up these children, let them commit crimes when they should be in their beds.

An intelligent person would know the difference.

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Reply #67 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:35pm

We all discriminate/judge by a million different criteria in every decision we make. I don't give a bugger if race is one of those criteria, and why should I? Smart people don't disregard pertinent factors, even if they are verboten from speaking about them in public. Smart people question why these pertinent factors are verboten to begin with.

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Re: About the young car thieves at Kings Cross
Reply #68 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:38pm

olde.sault wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

olde.sault wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:38pm:

You are the type of person who applauds crime.

Nope: I deplore crime, and criminals. Not sure how you came to your ridiculous conclusion.

I also deplore racists.

So do I, Meathead!

I sure hate the Ku Klux Klan but there is a big difference between stalking and killing someone who is of a different colour and my criticism of races that drop too many children for others to support and, by not properly bringing up these children, let them commit crimes when they should be in their beds.

An intelligent person would know the difference.

Yes, there certainly is a difference.

However, the OP is still racist.

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