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Reply #15 - Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:30pm

Frances wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 10:14am:

Surely if they slaughtered all the female goats, in a few more years there would not be many goats left in Iraq. Doesn't seem like a very bright thing to do.

Why pick on the goats anyway? There must be plenty of other female animals whose genitalia are visible. Maybe the female goats were too much of a temptation for the men that looked after them....

Apparently goats contribute to desertification.

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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Reply #16 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 7:31am

Grey wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:47pm:

A search on Google for 'porn featuring beastiality' produced 4,370,000 hits . Porn featuring homosexuality produced 5,830,000 hits. Porn featuring vegetables 8,260,000 hits.

I'm not sure what this tells me, but I'm glad to be growing my own vegetables. I might put in a security camera. Grin

You don't have to grow your own grey, just wash all veges in hot soapy water before you eat them.

I always buy the Lebanese Continental cucumbers that wear condoms, it's safer.

bye bye grey, you are on the naughty list for sure after searching those sites in one day.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #17 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:32am Is Freediver inventing usernames so that he can continually recycle thes fake anti-Muslim stories? Are you working for Mossad Freediver?
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Reply #18 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:43am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 7:31am:

Grey wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 8:47pm:

A search on Google for 'porn featuring beastiality' produced 4,370,000 hits . Porn featuring homosexuality produced 5,830,000 hits. Porn featuring vegetables 8,260,000 hits.

I'm not sure what this tells me, but I'm glad to be growing my own vegetables. I might put in a security camera. Grin

You don't have to grow your own grey, just wash all veges in hot soapy water before you eat them.

I always buy the Lebanese Continental cucumbers that wear condoms, it's safer.

bye bye grey, you are on the naughty list for sure after searching those sites in one day.

Hey I just googled the numbers - for research purposes - I didn't look, it might've put me off my dinner

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Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers
Reply #19 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:50am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

feel free to keep trotting out every piece of anti-Muslim crap you can find.

Actually, I just posted it because I thought it was funny. If the story was about Christian fundamentalists or Hindu fundamentalists I would have posted it just the same. Fundamentalists of all religions are a bit of a joke.

As for the "anti-Muslim" comment, I only quoted a part of the original article. If I had wanted the post to be "anti-Muslim", I would have quoted the rest of it as well. And I did call the thread "Iraqi women and cucumbers" not "Muslim women and cucumbers"....

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Reply #20 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:03am

muso wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:35pm:

There is a hadith-
Abu Dawud 38:4450- There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.

Islam has severe punishments for consenting adults who have sex outside of being married which makes sex with animals attractive since that has no punishment.

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There is no prescribed punishment...

This means no mandatory sentence - not no punishment at all.

You know nothing of the science of hadeeth.

What you quoted is not considered sound by scholars and the hadeeth recorded by Abu Dawood immediatley prior mentions that the beastialist should be punished with death. There are many hadeeth that mention the punishment for beastiality, and also that tell us that the person involved in this crime is cursed.

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #21 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 1:43am Quote: You know nothing of the science of hadeeth. But we know a heck of a lot more about science than you know about hadeeth.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51227 At my desk.	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #22 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:48am Is hadeeth science another of Islam's great contributions to science?
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Reply #23 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 12:23pm

falah wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

muso wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 24^th, 2012 at 5:35pm:

There is a hadith-
Abu Dawud 38:4450- There is no prescribed punishment for one who has sexual intercourse with an animal.

Islam has severe punishments for consenting adults who have sex outside of being married which makes sex with animals attractive since that has no punishment.

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There is no prescribed punishment...

This means no mandatory sentence - not no punishment at all.

You know nothing of the science of hadeeth.

What you quoted is not considered sound by scholars and the hadeeth recorded by Abu Dawood immediatley prior mentions that the beastialist should be punished with death. There are many hadeeth that mention the punishment for beastiality, and also that tell us that the person involved in this crime is cursed.

Would the science of the hadeeth be a form of psuedo science?

The bible says having sex with animals is not allowed in Leviticus so which verse in the Quran prohibits sex with animals, please cite this verse from the Quran if there is one Falah

The Quran is claimed to be from Allah yet the hadeeth has no divine origins they are 100% man made passed down like a series of chinese whispers over a couple of hundred years after Mohammad died before it was made into a book.
The hadith has no divine origins.
The sunni and shia both follow the Quran yet is is the hadith where they differ,the shia dont respect al Bukhari and have their own hadith which is considered unreliable by the sunni.
Falah you have claimed the shia are not muslims yet they follow the Quran which allah sent and the only doctrinal difference is the hadth which is man made.

Ibn Rushd - Two truths cannot contradict each other.
The hadith contradicts itself which shows it is man made and not divine.

So under Islamic law a unmarried person who has consensual sex is to be flogged 100 times according to the Quran.
Under Islamic law there is the death penalty for adultery which is punishable by stoning to death yet this punishment is not found in the Quran.
Under Islamic law there is no prescribed punishment
for having sex with an animal.

The Taliban stoned people to death, they flogged unmarried people who had consensual sex yet if you are caught having sex with a donkey there is no punishment,is that the superior morality of Islam falah?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/16/1079199226530.html
So why did he only get 4 days in jail for having sex with a donkey falah?

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19581 Gender:	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #24 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 2:29pm It is haram to have sex with a pig, sura 5:3 is clear the flesh of swine is prohibited. http://quran.com/5/3 It might explain why this imam said pigs are off limits-
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Reply #25 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 7:32pm

If anyone had any doubt about these Mossad agents lies they can go directly to the askimam website and check the fatwa number. The fatwa posted above is fake.

Check the fatwa number, and compare it to here:

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=368435b931fcdcc794b5358c74e6fafa

Obviously this Mossad agent does not respect your intelligence, and thinks that his lies will be believed.

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #26 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 7:35pm freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:48am: Is hadeeth science another of Islam's great contributions to science? Go and check Western university's referencing systems. The idea comes from Islamic scholarship.
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers Reply #27 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 7:43pm Grey wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 1:43am: Quote: You know nothing of the science of hadeeth. But we know a heck of a lot more about science than you know about hadeeth. Says the idiot atheist:
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Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers
Reply #28 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 8:53pm

If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him.
[Sunan Abu-Dawood]

Whoever you find unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal with him.
[Tirmithi]

...Cursed is he who goes in unto (has sex with in other words in Arabic) an animal. Cursed is he who does what the people of Lot did (sodomy; the people of Sodom and Gomorah).
[Musnad Ahmad]

Whoever goes in unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal
[Ibn Majaa]

And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts) Except from their wives or (the concubines) that their right hands possess, for then, they are free from blame; But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors
[Noble Quran, al-Mu'minun, v. 5-7]

"Say: "the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to God, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about God of which ye have no knowledge." (The Noble Quran, 7:33)"

"And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

"Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in God. If only the People of the Bible (i.e., Jews and Christians) had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 3:110)"

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Re: Iraqi women and cucumbers
Reply #29 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 9:07pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

It is haram to have sex with a pig, sura 5:3 is clear the flesh of swine is prohibited.
http://quran.com/5/3

It might explain why this imam said pigs are off limits-
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4596/dctyer.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/484/goatboy.jpg

Sounds like karnal is moonlighting as an Islamic agony aunt.

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