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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Pedo slurs Reply #15 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 8:34am Good idea mozz. Can you also look at a certain poster that continuously calls other posters and supporters of the GREENS "gay" ? There is a certain poster that says it all the time, he also often accuses Labor supporters of condoning/supporting paedophiles.
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Reply #16 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:04am

skippy. wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 8:34am:

Good idea mozz. Can you also look at a certain poster that continuously calls other posters and supporters of the GREENS "gay" ? There is a certain poster that says it all the time, he also often accuses Labor supporters of condoning/supporting paedophiles.

how do you feel about people who make nasty slurs about folks because they are OLD..or older.?

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Reply #17 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:24am

cods wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:04am:

how do you feel about people who make nasty slurs about folks because they are OLD..or older.?

Name calling is one thing and could be something to complain about if it is persistent enough and is directed personally at the complainant. If it is not an ongoing problem though, we might just have to write it off as just the sort of thing that happens on forums, especially when dealing with the more immature members.

Where calling someone a pædophile differs is that it is an allegation that someone is indulging in criminal activities. It is much more serious than name calling, no matter how bad the name calling is. On one forum I visit from time to time, there was an instance where someone became the subject of a Police investigation after he was referred to as a pædophile on a number of occasions. As a result, the forum rules were strengthened and calling anyone a pædophile on that forum would now get a member banned for life.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Pedo slurs Reply #18 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:31am Haha I have never called anyone a pedo. I have said that they are defending/supporting organisations that defend/support pedo's.
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Reply #19 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:40am

cods wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:04am:

skippy. wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 8:34am:

Good idea mozz. Can you also look at a certain poster that continuously calls other posters and supporters of the GREENS "gay" ? There is a certain poster that says it all the time, he also often accuses Labor supporters of condoning/supporting paedophiles.

how do you feel about people who make nasty slurs about folks because they are OLD..or older.?

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Reply #21 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 12:46pm

cods wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:04am:

skippy. wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 8:34am:

Good idea mozz. Can you also look at a certain poster that continuously calls other posters and supporters of the GREENS "gay" ? There is a certain poster that says it all the time, he also often accuses Labor supporters of condoning/supporting paedophiles.

how do you feel about people who make nasty slurs about folks because they are OLD..or older.?

It depends if the old person the slur is about deserves what they get, in your case, I'd agree with them.

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Reply #22 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 1:03pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 11:31am:

Haha I have never called anyone a pedo.
I have said that they are defending/supporting organisations that defend/support pedo's.

In making those snide, and cowardly accusations, you diminish your own credibility, and you try and score some cheap point against another poster who you have developed a personal enmity towards, which does you or your arguments, no credit whatsoever.

I believe it is a reasonable assumption, that when you refer to an organisation that "defends/supports pedo's" you are referring to the catholic church.
Now to take issue with how elements within the church have handled the issue of pedophilia, is certainly a valid criticism, and an issue that deserves to be discussed seriously.
You do not achieve that by throwing inaccurate and inappropriate personal slurs around about people whose position on this issue is unknown to you.
Many members of the church have tried to have this problem addressed more appropriately, for a very long time, and in no way could they be accused of supporting pedophilia, just because they are a member of a church, who has had members who have been guilty of these crimes, any more than a member of a football club could be accused of supporting rape, because a player for their club was convicted of such a crime.

I have also seen members here describing the Labor party as supporting pedophiles, and by association, Labor voters, because their have been Labor politicians guilty of those heinous crimes.
This is equally unfair, and again, it shows a shameful lack of respect for the seriousness that such an issue warrants, when people seek to employ it to falsely characterise whole groups as supporting a criminal behaviour that they most certainly do not.

So, in my view, if people take issue with how any groups or organisations deal with the issue of pedophilia, then by all means argue your points strongly.
Criticise any instances where criminal actions seem to be overlooked, or criminals sheltered from the law, by these organisations.
Demand that these organisations make available any material they have to public investigation, and then make accountable any who they find to be guilty of any criminal behaviour.

All that is fair game, but the unfair, and cowardly slurs suggesting guilt by the most tenuous of associations, needs to stop.
NOW!

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Reply #23 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 1:30pm

This post was written last night,and he is a serial offender, he's been bought to task about it many times but refuses to comply.

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well the targets of his actions were adULTS which already puts hime well ahead of the average misbehaving Labor cretin.

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Reply #24 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 2:07pm

Yes Skippy, Longy has been a serial offender in respect to characterising Labor supporters as all needing to share the guilt of supporting pedophiles, because there have been Labor members who have been associated with accusations of pedophilia, and some with having had child pornography.
Longy acts as if these actions are in some way condoned, by the Labor party, and hence any who support the Labor party must be equally guilty.
Along with his habit of declaring people not even yet charged with criminal acts, as being guilty, his reckless accusations show us far more about his own sense of right and wrong, than about those he seeks to slur.

I have explained, in my previous post, that suggesting guilt by the most tenuous association, of sharing support for a Party, or organisation, that has had members behave inappropriately, is unacceptable, as well as being grossly unfair, so, we will try and see our members here avoiding making those sorts of mistakes again.

Personal insults are already too freely thrown around, and adding the pedo slur to any of them is just not acceptable.

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Reply #25 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 4:36pm

mozzaok wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 2:07pm:

Yes Skippy, Longy has been a serial offender in respect to characterising Labor supporters as all needing to share the guilt of supporting pedophiles, because there have been Labor members who have been associated with accusations of pedophilia, and some with having had child pornography.
Longy acts as if these actions are in some way condoned, by the Labor party, and hence any who support the Labor party must be equally guilty.
Along with his habit of declaring people not even yet charged with criminal acts, as being guilty, his reckless accusations show us far more about his own sense of right and wrong, than about those he seeks to slur.

I have explained, in my previous post, that suggesting guilt by the most tenuous association, of sharing support for a Party, or organisation, that has had members behave inappropriately, is unacceptable, as well as being grossly unfair, so, we will try and see our members here avoiding making those sorts of mistakes again.

Personal insults are already too freely thrown around, and adding the pedo slur to any of them is just not acceptable.

To be more accurate and to understand my previous posts requires an understanding of English COmprehension which clearly exceeds most people's ability. The facts of the matter - as supported by criminal convictions - is that the Labor Party has a dreadful record with paedophiles in their midst. That might be uncomfortable, but it is neither untrue nor unfair to mention. IN almost every case, I have used this statement in defence of some scurrilous assault on a Liberal accused of something trivial. I have NEVER accused labor supporters of condoning this activity nor the ALP itself. I have in fact, expressly stated the opposite: that paedophilia knows no boundaries in rave, gender, age social standing or political affiliation. What I DID say however is the the ALP preselection process clearly is not careful enough to weed out the problematic characters. But if labor supporters wish to complain about some minor indiscretion of a Liberal then they have to be aware that their side has enough serious criminal convictinos to fill an entire prison wing. Dont throw stones if you live in a glass house!

There is a big difference between stating a fact - that the ALP has a shocking record in this area - and calling anyone associated with the ALP a pedo or supporterd thereof. I know that facts seem to fall thru the cracks in the sometimes small minds that inhabit places like this, but there IS a line and I dont cross it.

Yes, the catholic church has had a big problem with this and it also reflects poorly on their ability to see the problem and how to deal with it. But before we get too caught up on attacking a church over sexual assaults 30-50 years ago lets remember that 50 years ago, much of the community looked the other way when such things were apparent in families schools and instituions. How do you think these orphanages turned out to be such cesspits of sexual assault? They did so because of the silence of the average member of the community who looked the other way and did nothing.

And for the 1001st time for those that have the memory of a goldfish and the IQ to match, I am not a Catholic nor ever have been.

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Reply #26 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 4:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 10:33pm:

Mozzaok,
I hope that charges of being a homo are
also included in your list?

e.g. Karnal has a habit of seeing other men as being homosexuals,
like him
& constantly makes such allegations.

being gay isnt illegal while pedophilia is. ACtually, pedophilia is NOT illegal, but acting on those drives is. Yeah, it's pedantic in the minds of some but there is a big gulf between evil drives and evil actions. We only punish the latter.

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Reply #27 - Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 4:56pm

mozzaok wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2012 at 2:07pm:

Yes Skippy, Longy has been a serial offender in respect to characterising Labor supporters as all needing to share the guilt of supporting pedophiles, because there have been Labor members who have been associated with accusations of pedophilia, and some with having had child pornography.
Longy acts as if these actions are in some way condoned, by the Labor party, and hence any who support the Labor party must be equally guilty.
Along with his habit of declaring people not even yet charged with criminal acts, as being guilty, his reckless accusations show us far more about his own sense of right and wrong, than about those he seeks to slur.

I have explained, in my previous post, that suggesting guilt by the most tenuous association, of sharing support for a Party, or organisation, that has had members behave inappropriately, is unacceptable, as well as being grossly unfair, so, we will try and see our members here avoiding making those sorts of mistakes again.

Personal insults are already too freely thrown around, and adding the pedo slur to any of them is just not acceptable.

they arent 'associated' mozza. they were charged, tried and convicted and a number of them still in jail. That is a difference.

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