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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #45 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:09pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:07pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint.

I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock!

Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says!

I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame.
The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style.

Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock.
But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do.

Please show one example where what he says has not been refuted and debunked.

Please show me where logic and analysis of evidence has not been used.

The solution to the problem is simple. As Avram has stated, if the Palestinians stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge its right to exist, then peace will follow.

Keep firing rockets into Israel and the Palestinians will continually get their arses kicked.

Nice try to try and hijack the thread but this has already been debunked.

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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #46 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:12pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Arh, the lefties once again show they can't hack anyone who diverts from their viewpoint.

I can't refute him, oh, he must he a sock!

Why use logical or empirical analysis when you can accuse someone of being someone else, and then pretend that refutes everything he says!

I believe he's real. It's hard to adopt different syntax and grammar. It's easy to adopt other views that may not be consistent with your own, but changing your syntax and grammar is a different ballgame.
The only one here that I believe could do it is Karnal. Some others maybe, but the majority simply aren't intelligent enough to completely alter their writing style.

Anyway, who cares. If you lefties think his views are wrong, then you'd have no problem refuting them without resorting to slogans like "Jew boy," "Israeli scum" and thinking he's a sock.
But, don't mind me, continue carrying on as leftists do.

Yes.

Except for the stuff about 'leftists'. That's obviously just crazy talk.

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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: Who is Avram Reply #47 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:14pm Some peoples lives are so small they need to invent others identities to help make a conversation. Good luck to them, at least they get the answer they wanted.
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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #48 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:21pm

falah wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:07pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 1:56pm:

What do you think?

As I have said previously, it seems like there is one person posing as 10 on Ozpolitics.

Avram is just another incarnation.

If I was a mod, I would check to see if he has the same IP address as Soren, Baron vonrort, Sprintcyclist, etc.

Falah didn't you also accuse me of being Avram?

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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #49 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #50 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:28pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy.

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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #51 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:51pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:51pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:44pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:26pm:

Let us remember here that I have a moderate view.
I support Israel but also 2 state solution and to live together.

Now look on here.
The pp poster is banned for cheering 911 deaths, calling me Jew boy, calling all Israeli scum.
Then you have excuses for deaths of children here.

So you see it is you that do not represent the views of all Aussies that I meet here.

Hmm..

Right wing mods ban left wing for saying stuff they dont agree with.

Right wing members constantly breaking the rules, abusing people, creating fake accounts and yet they never get banned.

Calling someone Jew boy
Saying more Americans should have died in 911
Calling Israelis all scum.

You think this is ok behaviour?

Do you think that is worse than saying "barbaric Muslim animals" hypocritical sock?

BUMP for the hypocritical sock known as Avram, among others??????????????????/
Come out from your sock drawer and answer the question,avram.

BUMP FOR AVRAM

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Who is Avram Reply #52 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:56pm Surely, Avram is too much of a stereotype to be real. If he is a sock, his attempts to define his Jewishness through right wing Zionism sails very close to the winds of anti-Semitism. Obviously this won't make any sense to the imbeciles who can't distinguish between anti-Zionism and ant-Semitism.
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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #53 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 4:04pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:28pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy.

Nope.. I disagree... asylum seekers don't have a choice and just want a chance to live their lives ... asylum seekers don't want to visit my home, they want to join my home and contribute and as such they have a say in the running of that home to help make it a better place ... Avram wants to spread hate and run away

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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #54 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 4:58pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

You're sounding like a conservative.

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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103213	Re: Who is Avram Reply #55 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:17pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:26pm: Let us remember here that I have a moderate view. That's exactly what Matty says.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Who is Avram Reply #56 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:21pm Avram is entitled to have his say on this site. They are his views and he is exercising his democratric right, to have his say. As are his opponents having their full say in refuting his stances. Democracy in action - you have to love that!
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Re: Who is Avram
Reply #57 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:28pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 4:04pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:28pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 3:01pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 2:58pm:

Does it matter who he is?

Isn't the problem what he is more than who he is? A racist, spreader of hate and bigotry .. who thinks that he is entitled to have a say in our politics just because he pays his fees for university ..

In my opinion the fact that he pays his fees entitles him to nothing except the right to an education ...

he should have left his anti Arab comments in Tel Aviv , and he should respect the fact that Australia is multi cultural ,, with all cultures having equal rights not just the ones he approves off. Who is he to tell us Australia shouldn't allow Arabs in? anytime he disagrees he should piss off back to that blood stained poo hole he came from

Then what gives any of the leftists here a right to comment on Israel?
Surely your mind can grasp this simple piece of logic?

I don't go to Isreal and tell them how to live ... just as I don't go to your house and tell you how to run your house .. If I go to your house, as your guest I respect your right to run your house as you see fit ... I don't have to agree, but I do have to show RESPECT ..that means i eat what food you offer me if I wish, I drink what you offer if I wish and I accept that you run your house ... should you do something i find offensive, I LEAVE .... I do not take it upon myself to enforce my way of life into your home ... Australia is my home, he is a guest ... show some respect

That's the same logic people use to advocate against accepting asylum seekers and allowing them into our communities. It's a flawed analogy.

Nope.. I disagree... asylum seekers don't have a choice and just want a chance to live their lives ... asylum seekers don't want to visit my home, they want to join my home and contribute and as such they have a say in the running of that home to help make it a better place ... Avram wants to spread hate and run away

This is the internet. He could spread hatred from Israel.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Who is Avram Reply #58 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:31pm altering your writing style is easy
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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Who is Avram Reply #59 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 5:40pm he's pretty annoying ive never seen him post nything worth reading but thats true of a lot of people on the internet so whatever
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