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Time to join the dots.
Apr 20^th, 2012 at 9:09am

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How many times, after the 9-11 event, did you hear someone say, “We failed to connect the dots”, despite evidence that alarms were “blinking red” in the intelligence community all thru the summer of 2001? Even though the director of the CIA made a special unannounced visit to the National Security Advisor to warn that an attack was imminent, and that an intel briefing to the President himself spelled that out as well.

The human ability to shut out information we do not wish to hear is staggering and sobering to contemplate. That’s why they call it denial.

Per Wiki:

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.[1] The subject may use:

simple denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)
projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility.

Sound familiar?

Peter Sinclair - Crock of the Week

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26592 Australia	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #1 - Apr 20^th, 2012 at 9:50am Okay. so what is your point? Are you predicting something? SOB
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #2 - Apr 20^th, 2012 at 9:55am Yes, the science is predicting more extreme weather events, and that is what we are getting. It's time more people opened their eyes.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #3 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 9:25am Weird Weather 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-1iBHAivmw&sns=em Weird Weather 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAZue6ylZ8&sns=em
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26592 Australia	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #4 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 9:34am MOTR wrote on Apr 20^th, 2012 at 9:55am: Yes, the science is predicting more extreme weather events, and that is what we are getting. It's time more people opened their eyes. What can we do though? Oh! I know! Lets tax the crap out of it! That will teach the weather a lesson! Issue it a severe weather warning! SOB
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #5 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 10:58am Can you think of a better way to reduce the amount of CO2 we are spewing into the atmosphere. This is something all countries need to do.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26592 Australia	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #6 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 11:06am How about providing funding to clean energy and NOT funding dirty energy? Too easy? How about telling the energy providers they have a certain amount of time to switch to clean energy. Enforce it. Make them start up cleaner ways of generation. SOB
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Re: Time to join the dots.
Reply #7 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 11:14am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 21^st, 2012 at 11:06am:

How about providing funding to clean energy and NOT funding dirty energy? Too easy? How about telling the energy providers they have a certain amount of time to switch to clean energy. Enforce it. Make them start up cleaner ways of generation.

SOB

Because direct action like this often ends up badly. The market mechanism will facilitate a much smoother change to alternative energies. Besides funding direct action will involve higher taxes anyway.

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Reply #8 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 4:48am

Might be worth a visit to the Tectonic Banana site

where you'll find everything explained, if somewhat cryptically (considering its owner has been and may still be target of multiple assassination attempts)

Suffice to say, no tax, no scheme for profit cooked up by the rats posing as governments or scientists, will solve the mess. The world is shaking itself to bits. The Tasman Sea is being heated from below (hence the floods) and the numerous volcanic eruptions and earthquakes are beyond the powers of Juliar and her ilk to halt or fix

The greedy and power-mad are drilling for fossil fuels in places they know they're crazy to go whilst others are injecting crap and fracturing rock to get at the gas. Plate-theory is hokum. Christchurch shocked the crap out of them. Learn the mystery of Lake George. Be scared about Adelaide. People died because of this information. And it was discovered by Aussies

and there's only one place you'll have a chance to learn any of it

http://tectonicbanana.org/ZZ-Alexandrov-4.htm #There is more

but you'll need to be quick, because it's taken down often and this guy has laid it on the line this one last time, more clearly than ever before

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #9 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 4:58am Doesn't sound possible. But if his theory precludes "a great big tax on everything" I'm sure he'll get his fair share of buyers. Your link doesn't work. Can you tell me if it's a rehash of this old theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth_theory
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Reply #10 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 5:07am

MOTR wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 4:58am:

Doesn't sound possible. But if his theory precludes "a great big tax on everything" I'm sure he'll get his fair share of buyers.

You want to dismiss something researched extensively on the Aussie govt. payroll and which was closed-down suddenly by an Aussie govt. being sat on by the incredibly powerful, then sure, your prerogative

You want to buy a load of BS sold you by the alarmists and want to pay hard-earned money for joke-science, again, your prerogative

On the other hand, you could just as easily avail yourself of the opportunity to at least consider alternative science which, remember, the Oz govt. paid good money for and which eclipsed anything coming out of any other nation on earth. So dangerous was the information, so dangerous to reckless, demented fossil fuel pimps, that they slammed the lid on it and killed those who wouldn't be silenced

Your choice to review and decide which 'science' appeals most to you. Both paint a gloomy picture. One treats you as if you were a simpleton, the other offers a dose of real truth before you leave the planet

Always nice to have choice, of course

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #11 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 5:09am I've got no idea about what you're talking about because your link doesn't work. But you're right, I'm a sceptic.
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Reply #12 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 5:21am

MOTR wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 5:09am:

I've got no idea about what you're talking about because your link doesn't work. But you're right, I'm a sceptic.

Good. That's a start. Selectively sceptical, though. You've chosen your hobby-horse and now seem afraid of change. Which is common

As to the link, my apologies. As I said, the guy is under attack and does some complicated stuff

I'm no tech, but did test the link by cutting and pasting into search. Then, under it should appear a link derived from the one posted into search and that's the one to click - brings up the latest offering from the site, or at least I was able to bring it up that way

Other way is to google it. Google brings up several of the previous pages from the Tectonic Banana site, then it's a matter of selecting the most recent. All versions are chaotic, no doubt about it. Deliberately so. Difficultly with the link is just another example of a guy trying to reveal stuff whilst remaining alive. And to think, not all that long ago, he was one of the leading lights in a demanding field, right here in this country

For example, we've been bombarded with the Plate theory for a few decades now. And guess most of us didn't stop to consider (because apparently we're nowhere near as astute as we believe ourselves to be) that Gibralter and Panama haven't moved. Did that ever occur to you, because it didn't even enter my head until my attention was drawn to it on the Tectonic Banana site. So that's just a small example of how brainwashed we actually are, even though most of us pride ourselves on our capacity for independent thought. Funny when it's drawn to your attention ...

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #13 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 5:43am No, I'm sceptical about all things. It's why I've spent hundreds of hours investigating AGW. Perhaps we could start with the name of the scientist you are talking about. I googled tectonic banana and what came up was about as clear as mud. Why can't you just cut and paste the most coherent link?
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Time to join the dots. Reply #14 - Apr 22^nd, 2012 at 2:35pm Reason for hope.
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