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Reply #15 - Apr 22nd, 2012 at 2:39pm
 
MOTR wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm:

Actually these things are due to La Nina
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Reply #16 - Apr 22nd, 2012 at 4:07pm
 
Would you like to elaborate.
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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 3:18am
 
It looks like the extreme hot weather in the U.S. might be concentrating a few minds. I wonder what they will be thinking come July.

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The U.S. is getting hit by a range of powerful extreme weather events this summer. Record droughts in the West and Midwest are fueling historic wildfires, putting pressure on farmers, and driving up crop prices. Extreme “hurricane-like” storms took eastern states by surprise over the weekend, knocking out power to millions of people and leaving them sweltering in an ongoing heat wave. Across the country in June, more than 3,000 heat records were broken. That was after an off-the-charts heat wave in March where heat records blew out cold records 12-1.

With all these events occurring simultaneously, climate scientists are being more blunt than ever — and journalists are finally connecting the dots in their stories. In the last few days, we’ve seen a number of excellent pieces making the connection between these events and climate change. The latest is from Associated Press science writer Seth Borenstein:

So far this year, more than 2.1 million acres have burned in wildfires, more than 113 million people in the U.S. were in areas under extreme heat advisories last Friday, two-thirds of the country is experiencing drought, and earlier in June, deluges flooded Minnesota and Florida.

“This is what global warming looks like at the regional or personal level,” said Jonathan Overpeck, professor of geosciences and atmospheric sciences at the University of Arizona. “The extra heat increases the odds of worse heat waves, droughts, storms and wildfire. This is certainly what I and many other climate scientists have been warning about.”

“What we’re seeing really is a window into what global warming really looks like,” said Princeton University geosciences and international affairs professor Michael Oppenheimer. “It looks like heat. It looks like fires. It looks like this kind of environmental disasters.”


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The point here is not that the weather is hot, therefore we must be experiencing global warming. The point is record after record is being blown away, yet some want to tell us the planet is cooling.
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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

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Reply #18 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 3:43am
 
What would really help is if people would remember two key things about global warming.

1.  The term itself, "Global Warming".  A lot of people will try and say "but it's cooler where I'm at! Where's the warming, hurr hurr", completely forgetting the first half of the term.  It's called global warming because the concept has to do with change in global mean temperature.

2.  Remember that climatologists are a kind of scientist and when scientists talk about heat they're really talking about energy. As global mean temp rises the total energy in the atmosphere also increases. Since that energy has to go somewhere, and because our planet's atmosphere is basically a giant heat engine, that added energy results in increased severe weather period, not just heat waves.
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Reply #19 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 3:50am
 
When daily record-high temperatures outpace daily record-lows you know you have a trend on your hands. The long term trend is 2-1' this year it's 7-1 and that's without an El Nino.
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Reply #20 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 4:03am
 
Uh, I was agreeing with you, dude.  That was purely for the benefit of those other Martians.
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Reply #21 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 4:30am
 
MOTR wrote on Apr 22nd, 2012 at 5:09am:
I've got no idea about what you're talking about because your link doesn't work. But you're right, I'm a sceptic.


http://tectonicbanana.org/ZZ-Alexandrov-4.htm

Thats the link. I read it but still dont know what its about. Ring of fire and bananas. Oh and the triangles.

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Reply #22 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 4:32am
 
Chard wrote on Jul 4th, 2012 at 4:03am:
Uh, I was agreeing with you, dude.  That was purely for the benefit of those other Martians.


I understood you were. I was just getting in a preemptive strike on the Martians.

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“It’s easy to break an individual record because the weather system happens to be at that particular location. With an unchanging climate you expect that the number of highs and the number of low temperature records are about the same. And that was the case in the 1950′s, 60′s and 70′s. And then by the 2000′s, we were breaking high temperature records at a ratio of 2 to 1 over cold temperature records.

But this year, we’ve been breaking high temperature records at a rate of about 10 to 1. Ironically, there are still some cool spots — mainly in the Pacific Northwest and cold temperature records continue to be broken. So breaking records is not an indication of climate change, but breaking records at a rate of 10 to 1 versus the cold records, that’s a clear indication of climate change.”


Kevin Trenberth, a senior scientist with the National Center for Atmospheric Research

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

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Reply #23 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 5:59am
 
I think the government failed to press home the facts on climate change and global warming and the consequences of doing nothing.

Julia keeps trying to convince us that we need carbon pricing but she fails to demonstrate why this is so important. People need it to be spelt out to them, they won't just go and research it for themselves.

Maybe some ads showing the devastating effects of global warming. Or she could explain that the money will be used for clean, green technology that will eventually go some way to replacing the use of dirty coal.

Most people do their bit to protect the planet by recycling and taking better care of rubbish disposal, so in time they will come around to the idea that we need to be innovative and go forward with green technology.
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Reply #24 - Jul 4th, 2012 at 6:21am
 
It's a great shame we don't have a bipartisan approach to this problem. The irony is that both parties agree we have to do something and their goal is the same.

The problem is how to you get such a serious message across without being accused of scaremongering.

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