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Reply #45 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm
 
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.
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Reply #46 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:53pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
I can't see how anyone can actually that the Greens are communists, when Brown (who is supposed to be the most moderate in the party) has blatantly advocated for a one world government. He did so as recently as two weeks ago. The Greens are past their peak. They were completely irrelevant in the QLD election, and I expect that dipsh!t Larissa Waters to lose her seat come next election. QLD and the NT want nothing to do with the Greens, apart from the sole anomaly of Waters (QLD), who should definitely lose her seat. A pity that the other 6 states and territories don't follow suit.

It won't matter though. Labor and Greens = COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION. Now is the time, in my opinion, for a strong second party to emerge, and take over the place of Labor.




All I have drawn from all this wishful thinking about the Greens, is that the Hard Right fear the Greens greater than we realised.

No wonder they want to preference Gillard over Greens. They see Labor as less of a threat than us growing Greens.


Yes, I see the Greens as such a threat. How many seats did they win in the QLD election, again?? How many seats will they win this year in the NT? How many next year in WA?




Yes, Some state Greens do have work in front of them. In Queensland state Greens have the potential of surpassing Labor and gaining government when the swing back to the progressives happen. And it will.

Meanwhile, this topic is federal politics  and Greens can and will make inroads into the coalition support base.


Greens know this, Labor knows this, and although Regressive Neo Cons will not admit it, they know Greens are their greatest threat in the longer term.


Look, if you really believe any of this, then I pity you. Good luck with that, let's see how it goes.

How many seats will the Greens win in the NT this year, and WA next year?




I'm in NSW so my attention is to growing support in this state, along with federaly.

NSW is a key state for Greens to surpass the 20% federal primary vote, on it's way to government.


Okay. I will answer it for you, 0 in the NT, and 0 in WA. The Greens have 1/93 seats in NSW, 0/89 in QLD, and 0/88 in VIC. So, as a collective, in the three biggest states, the Greens have 1/270 seats. Very impressive.

When do you think the Greens will form a federal government? My prediction is 2000 and never.



When the time is right.

Greens are on the verge of 21 and leaving our parent to make our own way in the world.

Greens now have the fountain to lead Australia and a democratic world government.


now you just sound like a fool. Even by your own lamentable standards, that post is as illogical and fantasy-drive as you've done.



Your reacting to my posts speaks volumes. Your reaction reinforces your underline fear of the Greens.


you mistake fear for laughter.

idiot
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #47 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
You shouldnt call people idiots when you believe in fairy tales longy
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #48 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:11pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:53pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
I can't see how anyone can actually that the Greens are communists, when Brown (who is supposed to be the most moderate in the party) has blatantly advocated for a one world government. He did so as recently as two weeks ago. The Greens are past their peak. They were completely irrelevant in the QLD election, and I expect that dipsh!t Larissa Waters to lose her seat come next election. QLD and the NT want nothing to do with the Greens, apart from the sole anomaly of Waters (QLD), who should definitely lose her seat. A pity that the other 6 states and territories don't follow suit.

It won't matter though. Labor and Greens = COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION. Now is the time, in my opinion, for a strong second party to emerge, and take over the place of Labor.




All I have drawn from all this wishful thinking about the Greens, is that the Hard Right fear the Greens greater than we realised.

No wonder they want to preference Gillard over Greens. They see Labor as less of a threat than us growing Greens.


Yes, I see the Greens as such a threat. How many seats did they win in the QLD election, again?? How many seats will they win this year in the NT? How many next year in WA?




Yes, Some state Greens do have work in front of them. In Queensland state Greens have the potential of surpassing Labor and gaining government when the swing back to the progressives happen. And it will.

Meanwhile, this topic is federal politics  and Greens can and will make inroads into the coalition support base.


Greens know this, Labor knows this, and although Regressive Neo Cons will not admit it, they know Greens are their greatest threat in the longer term.


Look, if you really believe any of this, then I pity you. Good luck with that, let's see how it goes.

How many seats will the Greens win in the NT this year, and WA next year?




I'm in NSW so my attention is to growing support in this state, along with federaly.

NSW is a key state for Greens to surpass the 20% federal primary vote, on it's way to government.


Okay. I will answer it for you, 0 in the NT, and 0 in WA. The Greens have 1/93 seats in NSW, 0/89 in QLD, and 0/88 in VIC. So, as a collective, in the three biggest states, the Greens have 1/270 seats. Very impressive.

When do you think the Greens will form a federal government? My prediction is 2000 and never.



When the time is right.

Greens are on the verge of 21 and leaving our parent to make our own way in the world.

Greens now have the fountain to lead Australia and a democratic world government.


now you just sound like a fool. Even by your own lamentable standards, that post is as illogical and fantasy-drive as you've done.



Your reacting to my posts speaks volumes. Your reaction reinforces your underline fear of the Greens.


you mistake fear for laughter.

idiot



All the name calling you do just reflects on your own self worth doubts.

Did they hurt you when you were a child, belittling you so much.
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #49 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.


The Libs cant win the seat but they can choose who does. I think they's prefer a labor MP they can actually negotiate with that an egotistical arrogant dimwit like Bandt.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #50 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.




People of Melbourne will decide in 18 month on how well Adam has done.

If he does hold on after LibLab swapping preferences, what then for the old parties.

What then as more Greens are voted in and LibLab have thrown their best shot and lost.

Will you guys then realise Greens do have the potential of tossing out the Bastards and one day forming majority government or minority governments with the Independents.
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #51 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:17pm
 
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:53pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
I can't see how anyone can actually that the Greens are communists, when Brown (who is supposed to be the most moderate in the party) has blatantly advocated for a one world government. He did so as recently as two weeks ago. The Greens are past their peak. They were completely irrelevant in the QLD election, and I expect that dipsh!t Larissa Waters to lose her seat come next election. QLD and the NT want nothing to do with the Greens, apart from the sole anomaly of Waters (QLD), who should definitely lose her seat. A pity that the other 6 states and territories don't follow suit.

It won't matter though. Labor and Greens = COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION. Now is the time, in my opinion, for a strong second party to emerge, and take over the place of Labor.




All I have drawn from all this wishful thinking about the Greens, is that the Hard Right fear the Greens greater than we realised.

No wonder they want to preference Gillard over Greens. They see Labor as less of a threat than us growing Greens.


Yes, I see the Greens as such a threat. How many seats did they win in the QLD election, again?? How many seats will they win this year in the NT? How many next year in WA?




Yes, Some state Greens do have work in front of them. In Queensland state Greens have the potential of surpassing Labor and gaining government when the swing back to the progressives happen. And it will.

Meanwhile, this topic is federal politics  and Greens can and will make inroads into the coalition support base.


Greens know this, Labor knows this, and although Regressive Neo Cons will not admit it, they know Greens are their greatest threat in the longer term.


Look, if you really believe any of this, then I pity you. Good luck with that, let's see how it goes.

How many seats will the Greens win in the NT this year, and WA next year?




I'm in NSW so my attention is to growing support in this state, along with federaly.

NSW is a key state for Greens to surpass the 20% federal primary vote, on it's way to government.


Okay. I will answer it for you, 0 in the NT, and 0 in WA. The Greens have 1/93 seats in NSW, 0/89 in QLD, and 0/88 in VIC. So, as a collective, in the three biggest states, the Greens have 1/270 seats. Very impressive.

When do you think the Greens will form a federal government? My prediction is 2000 and never.



When the time is right.

Greens are on the verge of 21 and leaving our parent to make our own way in the world.

Greens now have the fountain to lead Australia and a democratic world government.


now you just sound like a fool. Even by your own lamentable standards, that post is as illogical and fantasy-drive as you've done.



Your reacting to my posts speaks volumes. Your reaction reinforces your underline fear of the Greens.


you mistake fear for laughter.

idiot



All the name calling you do just reflects on your own self worth doubts.

Did they hurt you when you were a child, belittling you so much.


poor diddums... you too will one day get a name, a life and who knows... even a bath.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #52 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:20pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:17pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:08pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:02pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:57pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:53pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:51pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 1:46pm:
I can't see how anyone can actually that the Greens are communists, when Brown (who is supposed to be the most moderate in the party) has blatantly advocated for a one world government. He did so as recently as two weeks ago. The Greens are past their peak. They were completely irrelevant in the QLD election, and I expect that dipsh!t Larissa Waters to lose her seat come next election. QLD and the NT want nothing to do with the Greens, apart from the sole anomaly of Waters (QLD), who should definitely lose her seat. A pity that the other 6 states and territories don't follow suit.

It won't matter though. Labor and Greens = COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION. Now is the time, in my opinion, for a strong second party to emerge, and take over the place of Labor.




All I have drawn from all this wishful thinking about the Greens, is that the Hard Right fear the Greens greater than we realised.

No wonder they want to preference Gillard over Greens. They see Labor as less of a threat than us growing Greens.


Yes, I see the Greens as such a threat. How many seats did they win in the QLD election, again?? How many seats will they win this year in the NT? How many next year in WA?




Yes, Some state Greens do have work in front of them. In Queensland state Greens have the potential of surpassing Labor and gaining government when the swing back to the progressives happen. And it will.

Meanwhile, this topic is federal politics  and Greens can and will make inroads into the coalition support base.


Greens know this, Labor knows this, and although Regressive Neo Cons will not admit it, they know Greens are their greatest threat in the longer term.


Look, if you really believe any of this, then I pity you. Good luck with that, let's see how it goes.

How many seats will the Greens win in the NT this year, and WA next year?




I'm in NSW so my attention is to growing support in this state, along with federaly.

NSW is a key state for Greens to surpass the 20% federal primary vote, on it's way to government.


Okay. I will answer it for you, 0 in the NT, and 0 in WA. The Greens have 1/93 seats in NSW, 0/89 in QLD, and 0/88 in VIC. So, as a collective, in the three biggest states, the Greens have 1/270 seats. Very impressive.

When do you think the Greens will form a federal government? My prediction is 2000 and never.



When the time is right.

Greens are on the verge of 21 and leaving our parent to make our own way in the world.

Greens now have the fountain to lead Australia and a democratic world government.


now you just sound like a fool. Even by your own lamentable standards, that post is as illogical and fantasy-drive as you've done.



Your reacting to my posts speaks volumes. Your reaction reinforces your underline fear of the Greens.


you mistake fear for laughter.

idiot



All the name calling you do just reflects on your own self worth doubts.

Did they hurt you when you were a child, belittling you so much.


poor diddums... you too will one day get a name, a life and who knows... even a bath.



Back to the drawing board mister. Your facade is collapsing. Your attacks mask your own self doubt.
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Reply #53 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:24pm
 
so says the turd with a collpasing vote for his party. everytime you go to an election you get LESS.
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Reply #54 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.


The Libs cant win the seat but they can choose who does. I think they's prefer a labor MP they can actually negotiate with that an egotistical arrogant dimwit like Bandt.


I agree. I think that it was a mistake to preference the Greens. They admitted that, and accordingly preferenced the Greens last in the 2010 VIC election. Needless to say, they won no seats. I was completely baffled at the decision of any Liberal/National to preference the Greens ahead of Labor. I don't think that it will happen next election in any seats. Bandt does come off as a completely arrogant little narcissist. I would hate to see him in real life.
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Reply #55 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:27pm
 
____ wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:17pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.




People of Melbourne will decide in 18 month on how well Adam has done.

If he does hold on after LibLab swapping preferences, what then for the old parties.

What then as more Greens are voted in and LibLab have thrown their best shot and lost.

Will you guys then realise Greens do have the potential of tossing out the Bastards and one day forming majority government or minority governments with the Independents.


Yes, keep believing that. Get back to me when they've won even 2 lower house seats. At the moment, they are likely to have 0 after the next election.
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Reply #56 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:30pm
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.


The Libs cant win the seat but they can choose who does. I think they's prefer a labor MP they can actually negotiate with that an egotistical arrogant dimwit like Bandt.


I agree. I think that it was a mistake to preference the Greens. They admitted that, and accordingly preferenced the Greens last in the 2010 VIC election. Needless to say, they won no seats. I was completely baffled at the decision of any Liberal/National to preference the Greens ahead of Labor. I don't think that it will happen next election in any seats. Bandt does come off as a completely arrogant little narcissist. I would hate to see him in real life.


I spoke to him a few weeks after he won his seat. He is a quite unpleasant arrogant little toad. And that was pretty much what most people in the room thought as well.
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Reply #57 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:33pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:30pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.


The Libs cant win the seat but they can choose who does. I think they's prefer a labor MP they can actually negotiate with that an egotistical arrogant dimwit like Bandt.


I agree. I think that it was a mistake to preference the Greens. They admitted that, and accordingly preferenced the Greens last in the 2010 VIC election. Needless to say, they won no seats. I was completely baffled at the decision of any Liberal/National to preference the Greens ahead of Labor. I don't think that it will happen next election in any seats. Bandt does come off as a completely arrogant little narcissist. I would hate to see him in real life.


I spoke to him a few weeks after he won his seat. He is a quite unpleasant arrogant little toad. And that was pretty much what most people in the room thought as well.


Really? Poor you, I wouldn't have been able to stomach it. You can really tell how pollies would be in real life. One of my mates spoke to Oakeshott early last year. He said that he was a complete dill, and thought that he could still retain his seat. My mother met Whitlam, and said that was a pretty nice bloke.
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Reply #58 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:38pm
 
Here is a theory of mine about what may happen after the next election. It's a very long-shot, but you never know. If Labor blocks the repeal of the carbon tax in the Senate, they will be forever tainted as in Coalition with them. If, however, they had the pride to admit that the carbon tax was forced upon them (as if most Labor MPs actually support the tax itself) from the Greens, and that they apologise and/or realise that it was the wrong thing to do, they would probably reclaim A LOT of lost support. They would also, of course, be abiding by the electorate's wish. Not very likely to happen, though.
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Reply #59 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:30pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 3:06pm:
How will Adam go when preferenced last at the next election? Apparently Labor and Liberal have both agreed to preference each other over him, and the Greens in Melbourne Ports.


The Libs cant win the seat but they can choose who does. I think they's prefer a labor MP they can actually negotiate with that an egotistical arrogant dimwit like Bandt.


I agree. I think that it was a mistake to preference the Greens. They admitted that, and accordingly preferenced the Greens last in the 2010 VIC election. Needless to say, they won no seats. I was completely baffled at the decision of any Liberal/National to preference the Greens ahead of Labor. I don't think that it will happen next election in any seats. Bandt does come off as a completely arrogant little narcissist. I would hate to see him in real life.


I spoke to him a few weeks after he won his seat. He is a quite unpleasant arrogant little toad. And that was pretty much what most people in the room thought as well.


Really? Poor you, I wouldn't have been able to stomach it. You can really tell how pollies would be in real life. One of my mates spoke to Oakeshott early last year. He said that he was a complete dill, and thought that he could still retain his seat. My mother met Whitlam, and said that was a pretty nice bloke.


There were about 300 people in the room and the body language made it clear that most thought he was an arrogant tool - none moreso  than the (then ) Vic Labor minister sharing a podium with him. Ive spoken to other ministers and MPs before. None have been such a slimeball as this one. It was his whole 'presence'. Not a pleasant person at all.

and of course Oakeshott is a dill. 99.99% of the population agrees with that assessment.
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