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gizmo_2655

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #120 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:33pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

What's with the sheer and utter hatred of the Greens, Longy?

With you it's pathological and that can't be healthy.

I don't know about Longy, but my reasons are, the Greens take environmentalism much too far...
Supporting animal rights, trees (plant life generally), anti-nuclear WEAPONS etc are all well and good.....BUT considering any of these things more important than your own species, is taking it to a ridiculous level..

I'm in favour of caring for plants and animals, but only up to the point where humanity doesn't suffer detrimental effects...

From that post I can only assume you think the human race lives outside the natural world.
If you think we can live on our own check out what the predictions are if the humble honey bee disappears.
We are as much a part of the natural environment as the lowiest maggot.
Everything has a place.
Unfortunately the coal mine overcomes any natural element no matter how important us or any other species.

No, we do live in the natural world...but, being a human, I feel humans are more important than maggots.....i.e we shouldn't kill off humans, just to feed maggots...

And what green policy is against the human race?

Most of them...

Against the human race or against some humans making squillions?

Pretty much against the race (or perhaps just modern society)....There doesn't seem to be any particular objection to some humans making squillions from 'green' technology...

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #121 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:27pm

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matty wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

Just when you think that the Greens cant
get any more stupid...

The Greens have 1, ONE SOLITARY Lower House seat, which will they lose when preferenced last next election.

But you predicted Greens support with Bob Brown retiring ... the opposite occurred.

So logic would say your couldn't predict an outcome of a raincloud rising a mountain.

The results of the Newspoll fall within the margin of error. It's pretty much the same. All three parties went up by 1%, Tony Abbott became marginally PPM, and the 2PP went from 57-43 to 56-44. All WELL WITHIN the margin of error.

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #122 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Pretty much against the race (or perhaps just modern society)....There doesn't seem to be any particular objection to some humans making squillions from 'green' technology...

I'd go with modern society, although I'd probably change modern to 20th century.
No they don't have a problem with Green tech probably because after it's initial construction it does not pollute.

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #123 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

matty wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:27pm:

____ wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

matty wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

Just when you think that the Greens cant
get any more stupid...

The Greens have 1, ONE SOLITARY Lower House seat, which will they lose when preferenced last next election.

But you predicted Greens support with Bob Brown retiring ... the opposite occurred.

So logic would say your couldn't predict an outcome of a raincloud rising a mountain.

The results of the Newspoll fall within the margin of error. It's pretty much the same. All three parties went up by 1%, Tony Abbott became marginally PPM, and the 2PP went from 57-43 to 56-44. All WELL WITHIN the margin of error.

But you implied it was all over for the Progressive Party because Bob Brown is retiring.

When is this suppose to occur, 2784?

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #124 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 4:14pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:58pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

The right-wing are intimidated by us. They know that we're not going anywhere. A green government is very likely to arise in the foreseeable future. We are the biggest growing party, and have great new members coming through.

Yes your lot did very well in the QLD election compared to the Australia party. Grin

The greens appeal to inner city wankers and those living in the rust belt states, the rest of us know better than to trust the greens.

Remember nearly 90% of voters do NOT vote green.

Christine Milne has been a country person her whole life, so there goes that theory.

Born in taswegia, the rustiest of the rust belt state, my theory stands.

You said that we appeal to the inner-city, when out leader is from the country. Your theory still stands?

"and those living in the rust belt states"; like taswegia. You really need to read the whole sentence before making such absolute statements

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #125 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 5:03pm

christine milne - classic lefty.
degree in something useless, started to protest and stop progress immediatley.

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..........She went on to university to do an honours degree in Australian history and although not involved in student politics, in her late twenties she was moved to join the Franklin River blockade. There she was arrested and sent to jail for three days. .........

http://www.themonthly.com.au/monthly-essays-amanda-lohrey-green-christine-profil...

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #126 - Apr 17^th, 2012 at 5:04pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

christine milne - classic lefty.
degree in something useless, started to protest and stop progress immediatley.

Quote:

..........She went on to university to do an honours degree in Australian history and although not involved in student politics, in her late twenties she was moved to join the Franklin River blockade. There she was arrested and sent to jail for three days. .........

http://www.themonthly.com.au/monthly-essays-amanda-lohrey-green-christine-profil...

Ive often wondered how a greens could call themselves a progressive, when most of the time they are stoping progress.

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Re: What now for the Greens?
Reply #127 - Apr 21^st, 2012 at 9:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

christine milne - classic lefty.
degree in something useless, started to protest and stop progress immediatley.

Quote:

..........She went on to university to do an honours degree in Australian history and although not involved in student politics, in her late twenties she was moved to join the Franklin River blockade. There she was arrested and sent to jail for three days. .........

http://www.themonthly.com.au/monthly-essays-amanda-lohrey-green-christine-profil...

Ive often wondered how a greens could call themselves a progressive, when most of the time they are stoping progress.

yeah listen to your average greenie and you think theyd be PRO-technology and growth instead of anti-human and pro-subsistence economies.

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