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Reply #15 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:49am
 

I'd be happy to vote for Crean.

Carr, not so much.

As for the rest of them....no, thanks.
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Reply #16 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:54am
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:48am:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:20am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:19am:
While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.


What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

Labor have safe seats that would not fall to the coalition under any circumstance, Darrell Melham's for example, and he is the sort that would stand aside for the good of the party.
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Reply #17 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:54am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:48am:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:20am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:19am:
While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.


What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

Labor have safe seats that would not fall to the coalition under any circumstance, Darrell Melham's for example, and he is the sort that would stand aside for the good of the party.


He holds Banks by a margin of 1.45%, and lost on the primary vote last election.
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Reply #18 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:54am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:48am:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:20am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:19am:
While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.


What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

Labor have safe seats that would not fall to the coalition under any circumstance, Darrell Melham's for example, and he is the sort that would stand aside for the good of the party.


He holds Banks by a margin of 1.45%, and lost on the primary vote last election.

So they find a safer seat,mel. If you think every seat is going to fall to the coalition you're handicapped even more than you project. Melham also had a 10% plus swing against him in that election,wont happen again. But seeing you're being the handicapped nuf nuf you are, give Carr Blaxland, that has a 30% plus margin. Kiss
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Reply #19 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am
 
Even though Miss Gillard is a pathological liar and is the most hated and most despised pollie in Australia today, it would be a shame to see it go before it has completed its rampant destruction of the Australian economy which it is doing in order to leave the most unholy mess possible for when the Coalition takes over.

From the Coalition's point of view they certainly want to see Miss Gillard stay as "Slime Spinster" right through to the bitter end because Miss Gillard is by far the Coalition's most valuable election asset and Miss Gillard campaigns tirelessly for the Coalition's resounding win in 2013.

No doubt there will be a few feathers flying and a fair bit of hen pecking as Miss Gillard and Senatrix Milne lock beaks particularly with all the new broom syndrome at the Communist Greens home office now that Uncle Bob has cleverly took off before the almighty crash coming in 2013.

Now Skippy, I know you are just bursting to do your blowfly thing and to display your inimitable expertise by copying bits here and there but don't spoil it all by just describing your personal shortcomings because that is just so boring and lowers the standard of the blog site.
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Reply #20 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:18am:
She will be by the end of the year, make no mistake about that. It doesn't matter, Labor are completely stuffed.


That's what you and that other dickhead loserweekend were saying a year ago. And every day that passes just makes you two look stoopider and stoopider. So go ahead, keep making the idiot pronouncements.
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Reply #21 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:01am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:45am:
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Is there still time to replace Gillard and for Labor to lift their primary higher than the current 20's before the next election.

If Labor is so set on giving government away with no fight, should they now limit their loses?

Should Gillard be dumped A.S.A.P for a more popular leader?


What good would it do? They are all the same. Whoever is there will do exactly the same thing.

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it's about forcing Abbott to a DD election, if he wins the next election.

Labor is the weakest link in avoiding Abbott controlling both houses and ramming through legislation like workchoices.

Labor in on track on losing enough Senators for Abbott to have control and not requiring a DD.

Greens can pick up some of Labor's loss, yet will it be enough.

Labor must stop their stupidity and pull their weight.
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Reply #22 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:07am
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:54am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:48am:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:20am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:19am:
While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.


What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

Labor have safe seats that would not fall to the coalition under any circumstance, Darrell Melham's for example, and he is the sort that would stand aside for the good of the party.


He holds Banks by a margin of 1.45%, and lost on the primary vote last election.

So they find a safer seat,mel. If you think every seat is going to fall to the coalition you're handicapped even more than you project.


Astro turd once again showing her ignorance and lack of comprehension skills. Carr will not win any seat if Labor are stupid enough to try anything like this. Shorten or Crean will be there by year's end.
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Reply #23 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:08am
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:54am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:48am:
progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:20am:
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:19am:
While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.


What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

Labor have safe seats that would not fall to the coalition under any circumstance, Darrell Melham's for example, and he is the sort that would stand aside for the good of the party.



There is just a shiteload fewer of them that there ever has been skippy.

Sorry but any party that goes from a landslide win - to 3 years later failing to hold a majority - to 2 years later looking at outright decimation - has only itself to blame.

Not the opposition, not the people and not the media.

Labor have been an outright disaster and this current Government under Gillard just seem to have lurched from one disaster to the next.
Their ability to communicate is beyond poor.

They seem to even stuff up positives. Somehow or another the bringing in of Carr, only a week after defeating Rudd, seemed to be stuffed up with the "I haven't spoken to him, err no actually I have...".
It was all a tad harsh but more highlighted to me they cant seem to get a message out across well at all.

People say that decimations in the end dont usually translate in elections.
I think NSW and QLD may act as a wake up call that if they don't change it - it could actually end up as bad as what is being predicted.

I mean for goodness sake, Labor in QLD would actually lose Party status if the Liberals wanted. Let that be their warning federally - it really could end up this bad.

This is the same message many across the world in many different countries have learned -

You ignore the people and arrogantly take them for granted at your peril.
You can keep in an MP who uses hookers and avoids the police if you like, you can move the speaker into a position, you can do a shady deal with others if you like.

At some point, at some point love, you have to ask the people. Right now their answer will decimate your party.
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Reply #24 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:09am
 
This will be the 2nd non-attendance by Miss Gillard who stayed away from the recent funeral and now the London Olympics.

Remember how Mark Latham stopped doing official things just before he was booted out ?

Does this really mean that Miss Gillard knows that it will no longer be the PM when the London Olympics start ? This will be a worry for The Coalition.

Olympics boss John Coates furious at PM's decision not to attend London Games

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Not happy: Olympic Committee boss John Coates is disappointed Gillard will be a no-show at the London games. Prime Minister Julia Gillard won't be attending London Games. Snub has left Olympics boss John Coates furious. Coates praised Kevin Rudd for attending Beijing Games.

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard's decision not to attend the London Olympics has raised the ire of Australian Olympic boss John Coates.

Ms Gillard will not attend the summer games in London in July, a move Mr Coates says is disappointing for Australian athletes.

"I thought London would be an absolute must for Julia, so I'm disappointed," he told Fairfax newspapers.

"It's a disappointment to us. It will be a disappointment to our team."

A spokesman for Ms Gillard said prime ministers rarely attend the Olympics.

"This year, as has happened in the past, the Prime Minister will be represented by the sports minister," he said.

Mr Coates is also angered Ms Gillard will not attend the Australian Olympic Committee's June 23 fund-raising event in Melbourne.

The prime minister usually makes the keynote address at the dinner where 1400 guests fork out $22,000 for each table.

Ms Gillard will be attending the G20 leaders meeting and the UN Sustainable Development Conference at the time of the dinner.

"It is crucial that the prime minister make Australia's voice heard at international meetings like these," her spokesman said.

"What John Coates didn't mention was that we offered alternative dates to the AOC - but the AOC turned them down."

Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan will represent Ms Gillard at the dinner.

Mr Coates praised former prime minister Kevin Rudd for his decision to attend the Olympics in Beijing, the first PM to do so since Malcolm Fraser in 1976.

"Rudd got it," Mr Coates said.

Australian Republican Movement national director David Morris, a former diplomat recently appointed to the role, said it was fine if the prime minister was too busy to attend the games.

"Attendance at an opening ceremony is far better suited to a head of state," Mr Morris said.

"Such a role should represent the whole nation and not play a partisan role.

Australia's head of state, Queen Elizabeth, would be busy supporting the UK team, Mr Morris said.

"This has been a problem for Australia for some time, with a lack of support for the outdated constitutional link to the UK monarchy but no political will to give the people a choice of alternatives.

"Australia is ready for our own head of state, who will be able to genuinely and warmly shake the hand of the British head of state as an equal and cheer for our team in friendly rivalry."

Opposition frontbencher Christopher Pyne said the non-attendance of the dinner by Ms Gillard was a sign of the chaotic and dysfunctional office she runs.

"A lot of people in Labor are not being able to get their diaries organized or just don't have the commitment either for community cabinet or to the Olympics dinner that you would expect them to have," he told ABC television.

"The prime minister needs to get her office under control."

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Justin Posted at 4:22 PM Today
Julia Knows that she won't be PM by the time the games come around, this is the reason for her non attendance!

Ray of The Basin Posted at 4:13 PM Today
This woman is a global embarrassment

Mrs caroline Yuile of Milperra Posted at 4:05 PM Today
It is very rude of her not to go to the London Games all Prime Minister 's go why are you so special Gillard in not going got something special you can't get out of or just worried about your Leadership if you go someone will fill your shoes while you are gone. What a slap in the face for Australia our Prime Minister not going it is very rude Prime MInister

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/coates-furious-at-pms-olympics-sn...

Skippy, you should have a blowfly fit copying bits and snieces out of all this - go fly blowfly
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Reply #25 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:10am
 
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Sorry but any party that goes from a landslide win - to 3 years later failing to hold a majority

So you disagree with your mentor, longwhine, that Labors win in 2007 wasn't all that big?????
Good on ya ,mel. Kiss
OH sorry, andrei made that post, no wonder it made more sense than any post mel/matty has ever made.
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Reply #26 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:11am
 
There is no way Labor wants a by-election in ANY Seat. They could find a seat that is unloseable but it will still show a very large swing and they dont want to give the polls and my momentum than they already have.
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Reply #27 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:12am
 
Gist wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:18am:
She will be by the end of the year, make no mistake about that. It doesn't matter, Labor are completely stuffed.


That's what you and that other dickhead loserweekend were saying a year ago. And every day that passes just makes you two look stoopider and stoopider. So go ahead, keep making the idiot pronouncements.


Yes, we're the stupid ones when you can't even spell. Time is ticking, Labor thought that they could turn things around but haven't. It's 57-43 at present, and it isn't going to get much better. I think that it will be much worse once the carbon tax is in operation.
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Reply #28 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:14am
 
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:12am:
Gist wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:18am:
She will be by the end of the year, make no mistake about that. It doesn't matter, Labor are completely stuffed.


That's what you and that other dickhead loserweekend were saying a year ago. And every day that passes just makes you two look stoopider and stoopider. So go ahead, keep making the idiot pronouncements.


Yes, we're the stupid ones when you can't even spell. Time is ticking, Labor thought that they could turn things around but haven't. It's 57-43 at present, and it isn't going to get much better. I think that it will be much worse once the carbon tax is in operation.

Yet both Howard and Keating were on 57/43 just weeks from elections, AND THEY BOTH WON,MEL.Keep up your stupidity,we all need a good laugh. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #29 - Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:17am
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:14am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:12am:
Gist wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 10:00am:
matty wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 9:18am:
She will be by the end of the year, make no mistake about that. It doesn't matter, Labor are completely stuffed.


That's what you and that other dickhead loserweekend were saying a year ago. And every day that passes just makes you two look stoopider and stoopider. So go ahead, keep making the idiot pronouncements.


Yes, we're the stupid ones when you can't even spell. Time is ticking, Labor thought that they could turn things around but haven't. It's 57-43 at present, and it isn't going to get much better. I think that it will be much worse once the carbon tax is in operation.

Yet both Howard and Keating were on 57/43 just weeks from elections, AND THEY BOTH WON,MEL.Keep up your stupidity,we all need a good laugh. Grin Grin Grin



The thing is though skippy from my viewpoint is they have been on this level now since her announcement of the carbon tax idea.
It has rarely if ever raised up or looked like coming back.

I hear the argument "it can change" but it seems time is ticking by and there seems absolutely no action plan on how to change it?

Do you agree or am I being harsh?
How can you see it coming back to an election winning position?
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