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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:12am Is there still time to replace Gillard and for Labor to lift their primary higher than the current 20's before the next election. If Labor is so set on giving government away with no fight, should they now limit their loses? Should Gillard be dumped A.S.A.P for a more popular leader?
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BlOoDy RiPpEr Gold Member Offline aussie-patriot.com Posts: 2475 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #1 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:13am Dont worry, she will be.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #2 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:15am deja vu. I could have sworn we were here just a month ago.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #3 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:18am She will be by the end of the year, make no mistake about that. It doesn't matter, Labor are completely stuffed.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41859 Gender:	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #4 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:18am rudd, gillard, milne ..... same horse, different rider.
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Reply #5 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:19am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

Dont worry, she will be.

Yes, that is obvious.

Will Labor start planning to still hold on Senators so to force Abbott to a DD. If so, Gillard must go so Labor can stop bleeding support to the coalition and so giving him control of both houses and the right control of most State governments.

The Senate must be protected from Abbott. And Gillard is the weakest link.

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Reply #6 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:19am

While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

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Reply #7 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:20am

skippy. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:19am:

While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #8 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:26am Have made it clear a number of times before and still have the same view. Steven Smith being promoted as Labor Leader, is Labor's best option to minimise losses to Abbott (and to the Greens) He is well respected and is not tarred by the current Labor mess.
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Reply #9 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:30am

blob carr PM.. Oh gawd... they are desperate..he hasnt even been elected.. its a hoot really..I am almost sure he aint the most popular person in the party.. what is it they say about the scum always coming to the top??

they have no choice but to stick with gillard..they have elected her twice now..and changing the guard isnt working it didnt work for NSW it wont work for the Feds..

has she said anything about booby retiring????

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Reply #10 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:32am

____ wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Have made it clear a number of times before and still have the same view.

Steven Smith being promoted as Labor Leader, is Labor's best option to minimise losses to Abbott (and to the Greens)

He is well respected and is not tarred by the current Labor mess.

I like Smith, but I doubt he is PM material.
Carr is not tarnished, neither is Crean, both have cred, Crean in particular as "old Labor". A new leader is what Labor need to take away the sexist feeling against Gillard, shown here by the likes of sprint and armchair politician,and definitely an issue in the rightard community. The rightards are never going to support Labor anyway, so posters here against Labor are irrelevant, its the old labor voters and swingers Labor need to attract back, Crean or Carr would be the best for that.

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Reply #11 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:40am

skippy. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:32am:

____ wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Have made it clear a number of times before and still have the same view.

Steven Smith being promoted as Labor Leader, is Labor's best option to minimise losses to Abbott (and to the Greens)

He is well respected and is not tarred by the current Labor mess.

I like Smith, but I doubt he is PM material.
Carr is not tarnished, neither is Crean, both have cred, Crean in particular as "old Labor". A new leader is what Labor need to take away the sexist feeling against Gillard, shown here by the likes of sprint and armchair politician,and definitely an issue in the rightard community. The rightards are never going to support Labor anyway, so posters here against Labor are irrelevant, its the old labor voters and swingers Labor need to attract back, Crean or Carr would be the best for that.

With Carr, someone would have to jump to make way. So out of Carr/Crean. Crean could be promoted quickly. He is also in a currently very safe Labor seat also.

Crean / Smith. Smith may be the person to rebuild Labor by refocusing on lost core values down the track, if required.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Should Gillard Be Dumped A.S.A.P? Reply #12 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:45am carr, crean.and smith.. throw in Mickey Mouse...and you have another gang of four.
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Reply #13 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:45am

____ wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:12am:

Is there still time to replace Gillard and for Labor to lift their primary higher than the current 20's before the next election.

If Labor is so set on giving government away with no fight, should they now limit their loses?

Should Gillard be dumped A.S.A.P for a more popular leader?

What good would it do? They are all the same. Whoever is there will do exactly the same thing.

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Reply #14 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:48am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

skippy. wrote on Apr 16^th, 2012 at 9:19am:

While I believe she has never been given a fair go,mostly by the sexist biased Murdoch press and the conga line of conservative suckholes, I cannot see her getting any better numbers than she has.
I believe that is why the NSW right pushed for Carr as foreign minister, if she cant turn things around, which look highly unlikely, I believe Carr will be PM by xmas. Its just a matter of finding a safe seat for him and moving someone on.

Probably best that idiot shuts his mouth then.

What seat could he possibly win though? What seat is strong enough to not suffer a severe backlash?

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