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Reply #15 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:39am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Also beginning...

Labor is making a complete mess of the introduction of the carbon tax. First they lied about it, then they couldn't sell it and now they're going to blatantly buy-off voters by sending out compensation cheques two months BEFORE the tax even comes into effect!!! Can these corrupt, spineless, godless, incompetent imbeciles do anything right??? Obviously not!!!

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/04/14/Carbon_tax_compos_begin_in...

The compensation was always going to come in before the tax...You should have been listening when they announced it instead of buying the denialists spin.

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Reply #16 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:41am

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Look out for the $100 a tonne carbon price.

If you delay it long enough there is no doubt it will get more expensive. Tony Abbott will ensure your kids could very well be paying at least $100 a tonne in carbon tax.
We all know the carbon tax is just a lead in to an ETS not dissimilar to the one Howard wanted to impliment.

Shame it is not needed at all.

Fossil fuels are non polluting and will last forever...yep we dont need a carbon tax and investment in alternative energy Grin

No we dont and when the time comes, then we can move over to any new technologies. We are still good for up to 70 to 100 years before we need any type of transition.

New technologies in 50 years will be far superior than the expensive inefficient technology you guys are trying to force onto us right now.

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Reply #17 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:50am

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Also beginning...

Labor is making a complete mess of the introduction of the carbon tax. First they lied about it, then they couldn't sell it and now they're going to blatantly buy-off voters by sending out compensation cheques two months BEFORE the tax even comes into effect!!! Can these corrupt, spineless, godless, incompetent imbeciles do anything right??? Obviously not!!!

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/04/14/Carbon_tax_compos_begin_in...

The compensation was always going to come in before the tax...You should have been listening when they announced it instead of buying the denialists spin.

Why do we need compensation for something that clearly isn't costing us money YET??? I may as well sue you for hitting me with your car next year because I could use the compensation payout now rather than wait another 12 months to get run over...

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Reply #19 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:51am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Look out for the $100 a tonne carbon price.

If you delay it long enough there is no doubt it will get more expensive. Tony Abbott will ensure your kids could very well be paying at least $100 a tonne in carbon tax.
We all know the carbon tax is just a lead in to an ETS not dissimilar to the one Howard wanted to impliment.

Shame it is not needed at all.

Fossil fuels are non polluting and will last forever...yep we dont need a carbon tax and investment in alternative energy Grin

No we dont and when the time comes, then we can move over to any new technologies. We are still good for up to 70 to 100 years before we need any type of transition.

New technologies in 50 years will be far superior than the expensive inefficient technology you guys are trying to force onto us right now.

Not at the rate Asia is growing..but what you are saying is its your grand kids problem ..not yours.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29117 Gender:	Re: THUS IT BEGINS!!!! Reply #20 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:57am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:51am: how many 100's of billions of debt are we in now ?? Not sure exactly except that it is about $100,000,000 more than we were yesterday!
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: THUS IT BEGINS!!!! Reply #21 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:02pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:57am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:51am: how many 100's of billions of debt are we in now ?? Not sure exactly except that it is about $100,000,000 more than we were yesterday! A strong economy sure beats another Great Depression
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Reply #22 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:51am:

how many 100's of billions of debt are we in now ??

Not sure exactly except that it is about $100,000,000 more than we were yesterday!

A strong economy sure beats another Great Depression

Pity we have a government that doesn't know how to create or maintain a strong economy and has no idea how to beat a depression other than by blindly handing out cash in the hope it'll help.

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Reply #23 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:50am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Also beginning...

Labor is making a complete mess of the introduction of the carbon tax. First they lied about it, then they couldn't sell it and now they're going to blatantly buy-off voters by sending out compensation cheques two months BEFORE the tax even comes into effect!!! Can these corrupt, spineless, godless, incompetent imbeciles do anything right??? Obviously not!!!

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/04/14/Carbon_tax_compos_begin_in...

The compensation was always going to come in before the tax...You should have been listening when they announced it instead of buying the denialists spin.

Why do we need compensation for something that clearly isn't costing us money YET??? I may as well sue you for hitting me with your car next year because I could use the compensation payout now rather than wait another 12 months to get run over...

It is to setup this farce to look like free money in the hopes that the feeling of the free money will outweigh the feeling of not being compensated enough.

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Reply #24 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:39pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Look out for the $100 a tonne carbon price.

If you delay it long enough there is no doubt it will get more expensive. Tony Abbott will ensure your kids could very well be paying at least $100 a tonne in carbon tax.
We all know the carbon tax is just a lead in to an ETS not dissimilar to the one Howard wanted to impliment.

Shame it is not needed at all.

Fossil fuels are non polluting and will last forever...yep we dont need a carbon tax and investment in alternative energy Grin

No we dont and when the time comes, then we can move over to any new technologies. We are still good for up to 70 to 100 years before we need any type of transition.

New technologies in 50 years will be far superior than the expensive inefficient technology you guys are trying to force onto us right now.

Are you a complete id......, silly of me of course you are.

It takes a good fifty years of commitment to develop these magic solutions that you talk of. If we are not involved in the development and ownership of these solutions you will be paying through the nose in you ignorant retirement for you inaction and apathy. The "ME" generations greed will drive this country into the scrap heap when they have finished raping it for all it is worth. We will hand on a country with no resources and no industry or plan for the future because selfish people such as you couldn't see why they should have to make sacrifices when every generation before them made sacrifices so it would be better for the next.

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Reply #25 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 1:21pm

nairbe wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 12:39pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Look out for the $100 a tonne carbon price.

If you delay it long enough there is no doubt it will get more expensive. Tony Abbott will ensure your kids could very well be paying at least $100 a tonne in carbon tax.
We all know the carbon tax is just a lead in to an ETS not dissimilar to the one Howard wanted to impliment.

Shame it is not needed at all.

Fossil fuels are non polluting and will last forever...yep we dont need a carbon tax and investment in alternative energy Grin

No we dont and when the time comes, then we can move over to any new technologies. We are still good for up to 70 to 100 years before we need any type of transition.

New technologies in 50 years will be far superior than the expensive inefficient technology you guys are trying to force onto us right now.

Are you a complete id......, silly of me of course you are.

It takes a good fifty years of commitment to develop these magic solutions that you talk of. If we are not involved in the development and ownership of these solutions you will be paying through the nose in you ignorant retirement for you inaction and apathy. The "ME" generations greed will drive this country into the scrap heap when they have finished raping it for all it is worth. We will hand on a country with no resources and no industry or plan for the future because selfish people such as you couldn't see why they should have to make sacrifices when every generation before them made sacrifices so it would be better for the next.

Not at all. Some government R&D and idiots like the greenies buying what is available will keep it going. At some stage when someone thinks there is money to be made, then they would try to better the technology that is available at the time. That is how technology change has worked and in such a small timeframe in history. That is how it should always work.

None of this forced crap from a failed pseudo science with magic fingered computer models. Just pure progression when progression is needed.

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Reply #26 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 8:05am

On a Green note - Qantas flew one of its planes to Perth partially using bio fuel.

This is fantastic because it means that we will have less pollution etc. etc.

It won't be long, relatively speaking when so much more will be running on bio fuels. This will solve the problem of fossil fuels running out.

Of course in order for the world to fly on it, drive on it etc...there won't be any land left for the planting of crops for people to eat...but they will get to drive their car!

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Reply #27 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 12:26pm

red baron wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

This is a genuine copy of a text issued by Christine MILNE..............GOD HELP US ALL!

Beyond the Carbon Price - Forum
27 Apr 2012 | 6pm | Climate change
NSW Parliament House Theatrette, Macquarie St, Sydney

Senator Milne will participate in a Forum in a scene setting discussion about the carbon price and BEYOND

Speakers: Ged Kearney - ACTU, Christine Milne- Australian Greens, Richard Denniss, The Australia Institute, Simon Butler- Socialist Alliance and co-editor, Green Left Weekly, Time - 6 - 8pm, Registration from 5pm

....red baron hates people younger than him!!

... oh, envy is such a destructive force - especially when one bothers to remember that Nuclear Weapons have proven themselves impotent in front of a worldwide audience to the shielding of infinite dreams of greedy domination!!

Softies just can't work out why exponential graphs don't continue forever!!!

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Reply #28 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Look out for the $100 a tonne carbon price.

If you delay it long enough there is no doubt it will get more expensive. Tony Abbott will ensure your kids could very well be paying at least $100 a tonne in carbon tax.
We all know the carbon tax is just a lead in to an ETS not dissimilar to the one Howard wanted to impliment.

Shame it is not needed at all.

HERE progressives has lost his will to argue a point!!

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #29 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

MOTR wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:06am:

____ wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Thus it begins

PANIC

because the Regressives can see leadership transition within the Progressive Greens is seamless and polling will continue to rise for this maturing young party.

Actually, I'd be tempted to go to that if I didn't live such a great distance from NSW Parliament House. Take some popcorn and a drink with me along with some friends and hear the roars of laughter coming from that theatre!!! Grin

Go on, you can't be that attached to your ignorance.

I would, but don't want to pollute the environment with an 8.5 hour car trip! LOL Cheesy

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