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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #210 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:13pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

Incorrect.

It's all part of Australia's Immigration quota.

You can not spend the same dollar two times.

If you do not spend it on these boat people you can spend it on your own people.
How do you not understand this?

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #211 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:14pm

... wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

... wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

They are afghan .... thats just geography ... you should know your people keep moving their borders and it doesn't seem to bother them ... THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS YOU TWAT

Yes, they are all human beings. But since when did all human beings get along in peace and harmony?

Isn't the whole point that we try? If everyone had your attitude we would still be fighting the battle of Troy ...

No. How many people must die, how many lives and even whole societies must be destroyed before you accept that it's never going to happen? One cannot be loyal to 7 billion conflicting interests, nor is there any reason to be.

You are a fool to think we have, or can, move beyond the "in group/outgroup" dynamic. You still abide by it, you've just substituted one outgroup for another.

I am fully aware that world peace is unlikely to happen ... it doesn't justify acting inhumanely to others ... I believe in treating others as I wish to be treated ... just as we can NEVER stop all pollution, it doesn't justify throwing rubbish out of your car window onto the highway..

it's a lame excuse .. world peace and asylum seekers are not the smae issue, although the lack of one often causes the other

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #212 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:16pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

So how much have these afghans pay in to your country?

So why allow them this money?

There are many asylum seekers that now live here peaceably, and contribute a great deal to society

Please don't pretend you care about Australian society .. you only care about Muslim bashing ... today your doing this through targeting afghans .....

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #213 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #214 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:23pm Is this guy andrei in disguise?
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #215 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

You deal with afghans at the west bank?

Hardly.

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #216 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

You seem stuck on the issue of money ... I don't care about money .. money is a means to an end, not an excuse ... Why wait until next year ... don't come here and complain about Australian policy ... It's NONE of your business....Piss off back to Isreal and complain about Isreali policy, today,.. there is plenty there to complain about in Israel.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #217 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:27pm darkhall67 wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:23pm: Is this guy andrei in disguise? He is obviously an alias for someone already on here, 'who' is the question
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #218 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:27pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm: You do not need to give it these people. I'll help you again: "humanitarianism ... "the doctrine that humanity's obligations are concerned wholly with the welfare of the human race."
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #219 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:29pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

Incorrect.

It's all part of Australia's Immigration quota.

If you do not spend it on these boat people you can spend it on your own people.
How do you not understand this?

No.

If we do not spend it on these boat people it is spent on other immigrants. We have an immigration quota.

How do you not understand this?

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #220 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:35pm

darkhall67 wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

You deal with afghans at the west bank?

Hardly.

People who pretend to be refugees but re situation is they are liars.
Difference I can see is we do not accept their lies and you believes it!!

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #221 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:37pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

You seem stuck on the issue of money ... I don't care about money .. money is a means to an end, not an excuse ... Why wait until next year ... don't come here and complain about Australian policy ... It's NONE of your business....Piss off back to Isreal and complain about Isreali policy, today,.. there is plenty there to complain about in Israel.

Israel's policy is my concern.
I support it.
We accept some genuine non Jewish refugees in.

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #222 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:39pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

I do not need your money.
My studies are paid by me.

I appall you allow these people in who take from you .

I leave Australia next year so it is your problem not mine.
They will bring their culture, they will stay with their own, they will take your social security.
I have seen these people, I served in the army and deal with these rats everyday at the west bank.

It is your problem not mine but I am right.

You deal with afghans at the west bank?

Hardly.

People who pretend to be refugees but re situation is they are liars.
Difference I can see is we do not accept their lies and you believes it!!

As has been explained to you ad nauseum on this thread they are NOT refugees until they have been processed and their request for asylum has been granted.

And IF they are found to be lying about their circumstances they are refused entry.

Simple really.

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #223 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:39pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

Incorrect.

It's all part of Australia's Immigration quota.

If you do not spend it on these boat people you can spend it on your own people.
How do you not understand this?

No.

If we do not spend it on these boat people it is spent on other immigrants. We have an immigration quota.

How do you not understand this?

That is bullshit.

There were 4 boat people in detention when the labor party with their myopic leader dismantled the policy that stopped the boats.

This is now a billion dollar debacle and rising, a billion dollar black hole the labor government did not budget for.

83.5% of these boat people are still on welfare up to 5 years ater arriving and then we include medicare,dept of housing, edcation costs and the taxpayers will be footing the bill for labor's stuff up for many years to come.

No brain = no headaches for the leftists

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #224 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:39pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

Incorrect.

It's all part of Australia's Immigration quota.

If you do not spend it on these boat people you can spend it on your own people.
How do you not understand this?

No.

If we do not spend it on these boat people it is spent on other immigrants. We have an immigration quota.

How do you not understand this?

That is bullshit.

There were 4 boat people in detention when the labor party with their myopic leader dismantled the policy that stopped the boats.

This is now a billion dollar debacle and rising, a billion dollar black hole the labor government did not budget for.

83.5% of these boat people are still on welfare up to 5 years ater arriving and then we include medicare,dept of housing, edcation costs and the taxpayers will be footing the bill for labor's stuff up for many years to come.

No brain = no headaches for the leftists

Not sure what your on about, but we do have an immigration quota ... if the government sets the figure at 100 000 per year, and we get 15 000 asylum seekers, they allow 85 000 in through skills and family visa's , if we get 1 asylum seeker, they'll allow 99 999 skill and family visa applicants in ... you said something about no brain?

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