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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #195 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:39pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 3:02pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

philperth2010 wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 9:26am:

Refugees take many risks fleeing for their lives seeking freedom.....Who are we to deny them asylum because we can point to a few instances when lives have been lost and claim it justifies persecution as a deterrent.....Australia is one of the few countries in the region where refugees can seek asylum and gain freedom.....Denying these desperate people any chance of freedom and persecuting them for accepting we are a free nation that has offered assistance is not good enough from our elected officials.....Australia should be proud it is a Nation that offers a safe haven to the desperate people who seek our help for a better life.....Otherwise we should take our signature off the refugee convention and accept we are not the Nation we claim to be!!!

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In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), Speech, September 22, 1936

The saddest thing is that our political leaders, rather than uniting in a humanitarian cause, have turned the asylum seeker issue intio a political football. The Labor Party should be ashamed of the way it is behaving.

I don't have a vote, not yet, but if I did I couldn't give it to the current Labor lot.

Not sure if you haven't the vote because your new to this country, or your to young, but boy have you got that all wrong ......

I don't have a vote yet as I have not yet qualified to be an Australian citizen. What have I got "all wrong"?

Blaming the whole asylum seeker debacle on the ALP ... We used to have Bi partisan agreement on the asylum seekers, until Howard looked like he was going to loose an election, so he decided that screw the asylum seekers, he would use them to scare the rednecks into voting for him.. his famous quote which you'll hear someone repeat on here every now and then is 'well decide who comes into this country, not the people smugglers '.. ... as far as politics goes it was a good strategy, it won him the election ... as far as humanity goes it was a giant leap backwards ...

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #196 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:41pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 3:40pm: You were banned for spitting out hatred on here. I can see you have learned nothing. You once made a similar comment .. and I asked you to clarify who you were talking too ... who was banned? if your claiming I was you couldn't be more wrong ... again
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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #197 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:42pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 4:10pm: so why post something which is offensive to Jews? We enjoy hearing you tell us what a victim you are ....
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #198 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #199 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:53pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

It all seems so simple and intuitive doesn't it?

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #200 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:57pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

They are afghan .... thats just geography ... you should know your people keep moving their borders and it doesn't seem to bother them ... THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS YOU TWAT

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #201 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

They are afghan .... thats just geography ... you should know your people keep moving their borders and it doesn't seem to bother them ... THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS YOU TWAT

Yes, they are all human beings. But since when did all human beings get along in peace and harmony?

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #202 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:01pm

... wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

They are afghan .... thats just geography ... you should know your people keep moving their borders and it doesn't seem to bother them ... THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS YOU TWAT

Yes, they are all human beings. But since when did all human beings get along in peace and harmony?

Isn't the whole point that we try? If everyone had your attitude we would still be fighting the battle of Troy ...

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #203 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:02pm So how much have these afghans pay in to your country? So why allow them this money?
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #204 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

My goodness, you have a lot to learn.

I suggest you start here:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm

"Australia's Immigration Program has two components:

•Migration Program for skilled and family migrants
•Humanitarian Program for refugees and others in refugee-like situations."

Have you heard the word "humanitarian" before, or is this a new term for you?

"Onshore protection
The onshore component of the Humanitarian Program aims to provide options for people who wish to apply for protection (or asylum) after arrival in Australia."

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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #205 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

... wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

They are afghan .... thats just geography ... you should know your people keep moving their borders and it doesn't seem to bother them ... THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS YOU TWAT

Yes, they are all human beings. But since when did all human beings get along in peace and harmony?

Isn't the whole point that we try? If everyone had your attitude we would still be fighting the battle of Troy ...

No. How many people must die, how many lives and even whole societies must be destroyed before you accept that it's never going to happen? One cannot be loyal to 7 billion conflicting interests, nor is there any reason to be.

You are a fool to think we have, or can, move beyond the "in group/outgroup" dynamic. You still abide by it, you've just substituted one outgroup for another.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #206 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm I receive no money from Australia. Why? Because my people pay no into Australia. To expect it is rude and insulting. When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money. You do not need to give it these people.
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #207 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I receive no money from Australia.

Why?

Because my people pay no into Australia.

To expect it is rude and insulting.
When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money.

You do not need to give it these people.

Do you think your better because you receive no tax money? Are you jealous because you can't get assistance and they can? Is that why your so concerned with Australias Asylum seeker policy? Petty

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully, Reply #208 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:07pm: When you give them your tax money you deny Aussies the same money. Incorrect. It's all part of Australia's Immigration quota.
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Re: Boat of 60 sank thankfully,
Reply #209 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:10pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:05pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Understand this.

Afghan people on boats are not your people.

They are Afghan and you are Austraiian people.

I am not your people, I am Israeli and you are Aussie.

You see though I do not expect your social security, I have not paid in to your country.
These people who are not your people come and they have paid no money in to your country.
Why do you pay for them too?

They are not same as you and you owe them no thing!!

My goodness, you have a lot to learn.

I suggest you start here:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm

"Australia's Immigration Program has two components:

•Migration Program for skilled and family migrants
•Humanitarian Program for refugees and others in refugee-like situations."

Have you heard the word "humanitarian" before, or is this a new term for you?

"Onshore protection
The onshore component of the Humanitarian Program aims to provide options for people who wish to apply for protection (or asylum) after arrival in Australia."

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No they are not your people and they are not good skilled people.

Come please I am from the middle east I know what these people bring, hatred, disease, crime and no skills.
You will ruin this country with these people.

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