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Reply #15 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:32pm
 
What precautions and alternatives are there for people to maintain their privacy and anonymity on the internet, the Government spying on me does not sound right.
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Reply #16 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 6:19am
 
> What precautions and alternatives are there for people to maintain their privacy and anonymity on the internet, the Government spying on me does not sound right.

First up, much of the media stir is FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - the ongoing psychological war. Second, most privacy breaches are self-inflicted. Anyone who posts their details on Facebook is, bluntly, an idiot. Third, anyone still using Microsoft is equally stupid. The presence of an NSA gateway in Windows has been documented for a decade ("How NSA access was built into Windows" by Campbell 1999), and most home machine breaches occur via Outlook. There are NO viruses that succeed with Linux, and very little spam.

The coming deluge will be with "cloud storage" as the sheeple race to embrace it. Go to BlackListedNews (adding the dotcom) and look for an article on Google Drive. Bear in mind that ALL electronic communications are now stored on gigantic NSA servers - there's been one in Sydney since the late nineties - and send anything private by snail-mail.

Other than that, it's just a matter of waiting to see who wins the looming battle.
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Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 9:06am
 
ACTA is not a law. It is not a breach of privacy. It is not in itself a threat to anything. What it is is a trade agreement. Under a misleading title. An agreement to bring in laws and breach privacy and whatever else. ACTA is the main reason so many countries are getting these new concerns with technology and privacy. They have to bring themselves up to the standards specified in the agreements.

Its not just the internet in there either. We are going to start finding less and less choice in medicines too.

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Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 10:07am
 
> ACTA is not a law. It is not a breach of privacy ... They have to bring themselves up to the standards specified in the agreements.

A useful clarification.

> Its not just the internet in there either. We are going to start finding less and less choice in medicines too.

And food. Family farms are rapidly disappearing in the US, and the same is happening here, being bought over by TNC agribusinesses. And water. Fresh (i.e. potable) water resources are now prime targets of TNC acquisition. They haven't yet figured out how to buy the atmosphere, but I'm sure they're working on it. Keep breathing whilst it's still free.
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Reply #19 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 9:12am
 
Good news!

ACTA rejected by EU!

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/305934,eu-trade-committee-rejects-acta.aspx

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As countries head to final vote.

The European Union's International Trade Committee has rejected plans to ratify the controversial Anti-Counterfeit Trade Agreement (ACTA) by 19 to 12 votes.

In a further setback for the treaty, the influential committee formally adopted the views of three separate sub-committees of the European Union, which all voted against ACTA earlier this month.

The treaty, which proposes to make changes to international intellectual property and trade law, has received wide criticism from a number of sectors and governments globally. Several European governments had previously indicated disdain for ACTA's provisions.

The committee's final vote also appears as an affirmation of a draft report into the agreement, which advised the “intended benefits of this international agreement are far outweighed by the potential threats to civil liberties".

"Given the vagueness of certain aspects of the text and the uncertainty intended benefits of this international agreement are far outweighed by the potential threats to civil liberties," the report said.

It was the fifth such rejection for ACTA in recent months, ahead of a planned final vote on ratification by the full European Parliament on July 4.

Great Britain representative to the EU, David Martin, said it was revealing that not one person on the committee had put forward a motion to vote in favour of ACTA.

“The only options were either to delay the vote, which was lost 12 to 19, or to reject it, which was carried 19 to 12,” Martin said.

It was a margin larger than anticipated for Martin, who has pressed for the treaty's rejection.

He stressed that the vote should not be construed as a vote against intellectual property but simply the treaty itself.

Though Europe needed to protect its intellectual property globally, he said ACTA’s provisions were too vague, leaving unanswered questions on the role of internet service providers in policing the internet.

He said there was no definition of “commercial usage” in the treaty and proposed sanctions against breaches of copyright seemed disproportionate.

“In the end when it became a choice between defending our intellectual property or defending our civil liberties, I am pleased that the majority of the committee decided that civil liberties should win over," he said.

'Disappointment'

But the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), representing the recording industry, blasted the vote as a blow to Europe's creative, innovative and manufacturing sectors.

IFPI urged responsible consideration of ACTA before its final vote in July.

"The majority of jobs in our knowledge-based societies rely on intellectual property," said Johannes Studinger, head of global union UNI's media and entertainment arm (pdf).

"Counterfeiting and piracy, including on the internet, are creating a global black market threatening the economic basis of real jobs in the creative industries. It's a global problem that needs a global response. We need a tool like ACTA to improve international cooperation in IPR protection."

US professor Sean Flynn, a long-time critic of the treaty, said the likely end of the treaty in Europe may also spell the end for the US’ more aggressive demands for intellectual property in a similar treaty currently under negotiation, the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP).

"The US demands in the TPP go far beyond ACTA on the most controversial subjects, including the evergreening of patents on medicines and regulation of the internet," he said.

So far Australia has only exempted itself from TPP provisions that would allow multi-national corporations with the backing of an international tribunal to trump local legislation on some matters. The provision was seen as a potential obstacle to the Federal Government's attempts to instate plain packaging for cigarettes.

Despite the European Union's continued rejections, Martin said six of the remaining signatories – including Australia – could still ratify ACTA.

Once the treaty was in force, Europe could renegotiate its participation in the treaty before re-voting on its ratification.


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Reply #20 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 10:18am
 
Kat wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 6:48pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
Freedom is not a fair price for 'safety'



It never was, PP, but they seem to think it's OK nowadays.

I tend to disagree with that.

The right to freedom should always take precedence over the desire for safety.

No matter what.


So you think we should abolish the drink driving laws and allow people the freedon to drive drunk?
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Reply #21 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:54am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
Yeah its already signed

Further reading

Thing is we werent consulted (as the people) and this "agreement" is behind the laws and attitude of the govt towards internet that we will be seeing form now on. ISPs forced to spy on their users and other draconian pieces of legislation are either underway or already implemented.

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Oh so now you want to be consulted, maybe even a referendum?  Well thats a turn up for the books, why not one for the Carbon Tax, GST, Privatizations, Mas Immigration, noworkchoices, noworkcover, the ETS and all the rest of it or is it only this one issue you want to be consulted on?
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Reply #22 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:07pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
Yeah its already signed

Further reading

Thing is we werent consulted (as the people) and this "agreement" is behind the laws and attitude of the govt towards internet that we will be seeing form now on. ISPs forced to spy on their users and other draconian pieces of legislation are either underway or already implemented.

SOB

Oh so now you want to be consulted, maybe even a referendum?  Well thats a turn up for the books, why not one for the Carbon Tax, GST, Privatizations, Mas Immigration, noworkchoices, noworkcover, the ETS and all the rest of it or is it only this one issue you want to be consulted on?


When have i ever said we shouldn't be consulted on anything?

This one is a bit different though - it was secret. They werent even going to TELL us about it until too late.

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Reply #23 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:07pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
Yeah its already signed

Further reading

Thing is we werent consulted (as the people) and this "agreement" is behind the laws and attitude of the govt towards internet that we will be seeing form now on. ISPs forced to spy on their users and other draconian pieces of legislation are either underway or already implemented.

SOB

Oh so now you want to be consulted, maybe even a referendum?  Well thats a turn up for the books, why not one for the Carbon Tax, GST, Privatizations, Mas Immigration, noworkchoices, noworkcover, the ETS and all the rest of it or is it only this one issue you want to be consulted on?


When have i ever said we shouldn't be consulted on anything?

This one is a bit different though - it was secret. They werent even going to TELL us about it until too late.

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So was the change to the marriage act, but you seem to think its only this one thing we need democracy on, nothing else....why is that?  I am not buying it, you have zero credibility standing up against Government abuses in fact you cheer them on and are an apologist for them.  Could it be that you are afraid this one little change could allow vast quantities of evidence to be stored which one day could be used to bring down the vast world Mafia we call the global economy that you love so much?
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Reply #24 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:07pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
Yeah its already signed

Further reading

Thing is we werent consulted (as the people) and this "agreement" is behind the laws and attitude of the govt towards internet that we will be seeing form now on. ISPs forced to spy on their users and other draconian pieces of legislation are either underway or already implemented.

SOB

Oh so now you want to be consulted, maybe even a referendum?  Well thats a turn up for the books, why not one for the Carbon Tax, GST, Privatizations, Mas Immigration, noworkchoices, noworkcover, the ETS and all the rest of it or is it only this one issue you want to be consulted on?


When have i ever said we shouldn't be consulted on anything?

This one is a bit different though - it was secret. They werent even going to TELL us about it until too late.

SOB

So was the change to the marriage act, but you seem to think its only this one thing we need democracy on, nothing else....why is that?  I am not buying it, you have zero credibility standing up against Government abuses in fact you cheer them on and are an apologist for them.  Could it be that you are afraid this one little change could allow vast quantities of evidence to be stored which one day could be used to bring down the vast world Mafia we call the global economy that you love so much?


What are you on about? I wasnt happy about the change to the marriage act either? WTF are you talking about? I think you are confusing me with someone else mate.

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Reply #25 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:25pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:21pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:07pm:
Prevailing wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 11:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 10th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
Yeah its already signed

Further reading

Thing is we werent consulted (as the people) and this "agreement" is behind the laws and attitude of the govt towards internet that we will be seeing form now on. ISPs forced to spy on their users and other draconian pieces of legislation are either underway or already implemented.

SOB

Oh so now you want to be consulted, maybe even a referendum?  Well thats a turn up for the books, why not one for the Carbon Tax, GST, Privatizations, Mas Immigration, noworkchoices, noworkcover, the ETS and all the rest of it or is it only this one issue you want to be consulted on?


When have i ever said we shouldn't be consulted on anything?

This one is a bit different though - it was secret. They werent even going to TELL us about it until too late.

SOB

So was the change to the marriage act, but you seem to think its only this one thing we need democracy on, nothing else....why is that?  I am not buying it, you have zero credibility standing up against Government abuses in fact you cheer them on and are an apologist for them.  Could it be that you are afraid this one little change could allow vast quantities of evidence to be stored which one day could be used to bring down the vast world Mafia we call the global economy that you love so much?


What are you on about? I wasnt happy about the change to the marriage act either? WTF are you talking about? I think you are confusing me with someone else mate.

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So what about a Carbon Tax, an ETS, Asian political and economic union, the single Asian union currency and constitution - no need for referendums on that eh - your political heroes are just free to move forward on that and leave us on a need to know basis eh....
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Reply #26 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:46pm
 
Oh. corporate Whitey. oops.

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Reply #27 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:46pm:
Oh. corporate Whitey. oops.

*backs away slowly*


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The usual Government thug evasions and diversionary propaganda tactic.
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Reply #28 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 12:57pm
 
Its all a conspiracy theory of kooks according to hirelings like spot of borg...

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Gillard to put Asian integration at the top of the business agenda

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INTEGRATION with Asia will dominate Julia Gillard's economic forum next week as she outlines a "growth and reform" agenda that urges business to capitalise on opportunities around the region.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/gillard-to-put-...


That tactic does not hold water, its simply propaganda, the reality is they are doing it and it is organized crime and they don't want you having a vote on whether you want this course.Tongue
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Reply #29 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 1:30pm
 
Yeah mate. I am a masonic illuminati reptilian oppressor. Better watch out!

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