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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #15 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Terrorists, like Israeli secret service can forge passports and enter via airports.

Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

COme now this is a silly comparative. We speaking about refugees and terrorists,

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Reply #16 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Its never happened here. You mistake me for someone that cares about terrorist states, like Israel.But if it has happened there they would not have to travel thousands of miles on leaky boats. Most of the terror attacks there are from the people displaced from their own land by your mob. ::
Did you miss the English classes at school? your writing is atrocious, I suspect it's meant to be. Roll Eyes

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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #17 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:07pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Terrorists, like Israeli secret service can forge passports and enter via airports.

Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

COme now this is a silly comparative. We speaking about refugees and terrorists,

Secret Service Agents forging the passports of supposed allied countries is an act of terrorism.

Israel Secret Service is no different.

What where they planning, heading to a country, murder someone, and then blame the Kiwis?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical Reply #18 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:07pm I don't agree on your points, I also think that my English -- thought not perfect -- is probably better than your Hebrew? But no matter,,
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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #19 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:09pm

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Terrorists, like Israeli secret service can forge passports and enter via airports.

Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

COme now this is a silly comparative. We speaking about refugees and terrorists,

Secret Service Agents forging the passports of supposed allied countries is an act of terrorism.

Israel Secret Service is no different.

What where they planning, heading to a country, murder someone, and then blame the Kiwis?

I am not discussing mossad or shin bet here.

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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #20 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:10pm

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

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Now why do you support more of medicare being spent on self inflicted mental illness for these new Australians, when it could be spent in other areas of medicare?

Oh I believe in spending OUR taxes on OUR people. Let's start with the underfunded mental health issue. Then let's turn to the matter of proper care for those in most need of it. I'm talking about people who are being cared for by a family member, a relative or a friend. Let's relieve the burden of those people out there who are caring for someone. Let's establish proper care for those not old enough to be placed in an aged care facility. Next we could address the matter of oral health. We could then call up all those people on the operation waiting list. Let's give them their operations. By the time we address all those issues and other health matters there won't be any money left to deal with these racists, actors, and asylum shoppers who keep arriving on our shores.

Have you volunteered to do the shopping for an aged and blind person lately? Any sign of protest to highlight the plight of blind people not having their liberty. Blind people and less ambulatory have a type of detention as well.

I guess there ain't much glamour in protesting about people stuck in wheelchairs.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical Reply #21 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:13pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:07pm: I don't agree on your points, I also think that my English -- thought not perfect -- is probably better than your Hebrew? But no matter,, LOL you wrote that as though Hebrew was significant.
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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #22 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:28pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

You can also create terrorists by treating them like criminals.

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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #23 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:30pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:57pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Terrorists, like Israeli secret service can forge passports and enter via airports.

Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

COme now this is a silly comparative. We speaking about refugees and terrorists,

In this case the Israeli secret service were acting as terrorists.

But in terms of Terrorists entering Australia as refugees it would be extrordinary that they would subject themselves to 4 to 7 years manditory detention with the requirment of an extensive investigation into their identity and past etc when they can just fly in first class with almost no questions asked.

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Reply #24 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:50pm

salad in wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:53pm:

[quote author=4B404545290

Now why do you support more of medicare being spent on self inflicted mental illness for these new Australians, when it could be spent in other areas of medicare?

Oh I believe in spending OUR taxes on OUR people. Let's start with the underfunded mental health issue. Then let's turn to the matter of proper care for those in most need of it. I'm talking about people who are being cared for by a family member, a relative or a friend. Let's relieve the burden of those people out there who are caring for someone. Let's establish proper care for those not old enough to be placed in an aged care facility. Next we could address the matter of oral health. We could then call up all those people on the operation waiting list. Let's give them their operations. By the time we address all those issues and other health matters there won't be any money left to deal with these racists, actors, and asylum shoppers who keep arriving on our shores.

Have you volunteered to do the shopping for an aged and blind person lately? Any sign of protest to highlight the plight of blind people not having their liberty. Blind people and less ambulatory have a type of detention as well.

I guess there ain't much glamour in protesting about people stuck in wheelchairs.

Did a stint of volunteering a few months back for someone until they went into paliiative care and subsequently starved to death to shorten his life. Hope this passes your moral judgement.

As for increasing spending on the lot of Australians, hey in case you didn't realise, I'm a Greens supporter.

A Party who supports a decent return on Australian assets so we can fund better quality of living for all Australians.

As your passing judgement on asylum seekers, do you support the tables turned and stereotyping disabled people?

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Reply #25 - Apr 9^th, 2012 at 7:19pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Its never happened here. You mistake me for someone that cares about terrorist states, like Israel.But if it has happened there they would not have to travel thousands of miles on leaky boats. Most of the terror attacks there are from the people displaced from their own land by your mob. ::
Did you miss the English classes at school? your writing is atrocious, I suspect it's meant to be. Roll Eyes

Is it right to assume English is your first language roopoo?

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Re: Long Term Mandatory Detention Is Illogical
Reply #26 - Apr 10^th, 2012 at 8:53am

blackadder wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 7:19pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????

I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.

Its never happened here. You mistake me for someone that cares about terrorist states, like Israel.But if it has happened there they would not have to travel thousands of miles on leaky boats. Most of the terror attacks there are from the people displaced from their own land by your mob. ::
Did you miss the English classes at school? your writing is atrocious, I suspect it's meant to be. Roll Eyes

Is it right to assume English is your first language roopoo?

In your haste to catch me out you proved YOU have no idea.
Kingofthefibroshack proving why you're a bogan living in boganville. WOW I didn't leave a big enough gap between Israel and BUT. Roll Eyes

did you want a capital letter for YOUR bogan boy?

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Reply #27 - Apr 10^th, 2012 at 11:22am

skippy. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

Yea, I wish they would, most inmates at Villawood are pommy or pacific island visa over stayers. No surprises there though, 99.98% of illegals in OZ are visa over stayers.

There were 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled a policy that stopped the boats the leftards ignore this fact when trying to spin this billion dollar debacle they created.

Why do the leftards talk about visa overstayers like they are related to asylum seekers when they have nothing in common?
A visa overstayer gets deported, The migration act states a visa overstayer cannot claim asylum,a visa overstayer cannot claim centrelink-department of housing or even medicare.
We do not give free cigarettes and mobile phones to visa overstayers.

The dim witted leftards think visa overstayers are somehow comparable to asylum seekers.

The boat people fly in to a country in the north before employing those people smugglers the labor party support.

These Afghans flew into Bangkok then disposed of their papers to employ the labor government supported people smugglers.
They will not get off the ship....
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/they-wont-get-off-this-ship-they-wa...

So why do they pay 10x what it costs to fly into Australia to come in on an unseaworthy boat when they could just fly in, does the rejection rate for air arrivals make disposing of your passport and coming in by boat a more likely way of deceiving the authorities into giving them asylum?

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Reply #28 - Apr 10^th, 2012 at 11:29am

adelcrow wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Its pretty stupid for the govt to set itself up for millions of dollars in extra mental health payments when its completely unnecessary.

It is pretty stupid to believe the cock and bull story that we were responsible for their mental health issues, only a dim witted leftard would believe that crap.

Nothing the Taliban or Islamic regime did caused any mental health issues, they blame the Aussies because leftards are stupid enough to believe them and compensate them.

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Reply #29 - Apr 10^th, 2012 at 11:32am

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Why do the leftards talk about visa overstayers like they are related to asylum seekers when they have nothing in common?

So TRUE. VISA OVERSTAYERS ARE illegal aliens IN THIS COUNTRY.
While ASYLUM SEEKERS are legally seeking asylum to stay here after having to flee their country of origin, glad you agree, baronnonthinker.

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