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Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:28pm
 
Scores protest outside Villawood detention centre


More than 100 people are protesting outside Sydney's Villawood detention centre as part of a nationwide demonstration against mandatory detention.

The refugee activists marched from a train station at nearby suburb Chester Hill.

Protesters argue a recent parliamentary committee report provides further evidence that mental illness is widespread across the detention network.

Refugee Action Coalition spokesman James Supple says the protest shares support in the community.

"We think it's very important that protests like this happen to break down some of the isolation and hopelessness that people inside detention feel, and to bring a message that there are substantial numbers of people in the community that would rather see them welcomed," he said.

Last month, a parliamentary inquiry into immigration detention centres recommended asylum seekers be detained for no longer than 90 days.

A majority of members of the joint committee said asylum seekers who passed initial health, character and security checks should immediately get a bridging visa or be moved to community detention.

The inquiry also called for a change to the current situation where the immigration minister was also the legal guardian of unaccompanied children in detention.


www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-09/scores-protest-outside-villawood-detention-centre...


Come on Regressives, the only reason you lot want to inflict mental illness is to decrease your own quality of medicare.

You people just like shooting your own foot.
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Reply #1 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:46pm
 
Its pretty stupid for the govt to set itself up for millions of dollars in extra mental health payments when its completely unnecessary.
These people should be in in the community and the education system or looking for employment instead of being punished because the neo cons need a minority group to bash.
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Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:04pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:46pm:
Its pretty stupid for the govt to set itself up for millions of dollars in extra mental health payments when its completely unnecessary.
These people should be in in the community and the education system or looking for employment instead of being punished because the neo cons need a minority group to bash.


When you put it that way it makes me kinda think its safer to keep them in there to save whoever they would bash if they werent bashing them.

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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:04pm:
adelcrow wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:46pm:
Its pretty stupid for the govt to set itself up for millions of dollars in extra mental health payments when its completely unnecessary.
These people should be in in the community and the education system or looking for employment instead of being punished because the neo cons need a minority group to bash.


When you put it that way it makes me kinda think its safer to keep them in there to save whoever they would bash if they werent bashing them.

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Police act on Liberal party brawl at Club Marconi

SENIOR Liberal Party members will be questioned by police after a routine meeting at Club Marconi ended in a wild brawl.


www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/police-act-on-liberal-party-brawl-at-c...


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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:20pm
 
____ wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:12pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:04pm:
adelcrow wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:46pm:
Its pretty stupid for the govt to set itself up for millions of dollars in extra mental health payments when its completely unnecessary.
These people should be in in the community and the education system or looking for employment instead of being punished because the neo cons need a minority group to bash.


When you put it that way it makes me kinda think its safer to keep them in there to save whoever they would bash if they werent bashing them.

Spot


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Police act on Liberal party brawl at Club Marconi

SENIOR Liberal Party members will be questioned by police after a routine meeting at Club Marconi ended in a wild brawl.


www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/police-act-on-liberal-party-brawl-at-c...


themselves.




http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/lid-lifted-on-the-ugly-80s/2005/11/24/113270...




While the graphic photo of the bruised and bloodied face of left-wing Labor MP Peter Baldwin has remained etched in the public conscience since his bashing 25 years ago, those responsible have never been brought to account.

Now, Joe Meissner, one of the central figures in the controversy, has broken his silence. Meissner, an importer as well as one of Australia's top-ranked poker players, claims it was "suggested to Tom [Domican] that Baldwin be fixed up and it developed from there". Meissner claims that Domican organised two associates to do the bashing.

When asked who had suggested this to Domican, Meissner replied: "Who else, our good friend Graham [Richardson]. Ask him."

Richardson, who later became a federal minister and a powerbroker within the ALP, was state secretary of the party at the time. He categorically denies knowing anything about the bashing of Baldwin. "I've got no knowledge of who did it or who organised it but they were obviously acting on a frolic of their own because it was madness."

On July 16, 1980 Baldwin, a member of the NSW upper house, was attacked at his home in Marrickville. He suffered a compressed fracture of the cheekbone, a broken nose, a broken upper jaw and had a number of teeth knocked out.

According to Baldwin's police statement, which the Herald has obtained, the last thing he recalled was arriving home that evening to find the orange plastic lamp in his loungeroom pulled out of the socket. As he tried to plug it back in, he was set upon.

While Baldwin told police he could not identify his attackers, he provided police with the names of suspects - one of whom was Meissner - who that year had been convicted of assaulting footballer Paul Ward and before that had been involved in illegal casinos, brothels and had been to jail over the theft of submachine-guns.

Baldwin explained in his statement that Meissner, who was the secretary of the Enmore branch of the ALP, and Marrickville mayor John Harrison both harboured ambitions of becoming the state member of parliament.

Baldwin's investigations had uncovered not only the rorting of the books in the Enmore branch but that Meissner's own membership was illegal because he lived in Double Bay.

"So in other words his whole political aspirations which he was quite explicit and clear about … had gone down the drain and that was all attributable to me," Baldwin told the police.

Baldwin also identified underworld figure Domican as a likely suspect. Domican was employed as Harrison's driver but was seen by many to be acting in the more sinister role as the mayor's bodyguard
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____ wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Scores protest outside Villawood detention centre


More than 100 people are protesting outside Sydney's Villawood detention centre as part of a nationwide demonstration against mandatory detention.

[...]



You have no credibility Green Boy. More than 100 people at the demo. Hard to round up the usual mob on a long weekend. That's hard to understand as the usual rent-a-crowd would be anti-christian. They don't mind having christian holidays all the same. Hypocrites!

More than 100 people. What was the official figure...122...109...111? More people were at Woolworths at Parramatta than the gig out at Villawood. Those detainees don't have to remain in detention. They can always return to their country of birth.
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:33pm
 
salad in wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
____ wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Scores protest outside Villawood detention centre


More than 100 people are protesting outside Sydney's Villawood detention centre as part of a nationwide demonstration against mandatory detention.

[...]



You have no credibility Green Boy. More than 100 people at the demo. Hard to round up the usual mob on a long weekend. That's hard to understand as the usual rent-a-crowd would be anti-christian. They don't mind having christian holidays all the same. Hypocrites!

More than 100 people. What was the official figure...122...109...111? More people were at Woolworths at Parramatta than the gig out at Villawood. Those detainees don't have to remain in detention. They can always return to their country of birth.

Yea, I wish they would, most inmates at Villawood are pommy or pacific island visa over stayers. No surprises there though, 99.98% of illegals in OZ are visa over stayers.
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Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:41pm
 
You can argue how ever you like but the facts are that detention does not stop people coming here nor is it helping the people who are detained. All that happens is we are liable for the way we have treated them. Where is that christianity that Australians seem to want to fight for in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is only an idea here for some reason.
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Reply #8 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:44pm
 
I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,
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Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ without being killed by pirates or drown at sea just so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????
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Reply #10 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:52pm
 
skippy. wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:50pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????


I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.
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salad in wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
____ wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Scores protest outside Villawood detention centre


More than 100 people are protesting outside Sydney's Villawood detention centre as part of a nationwide demonstration against mandatory detention.

[...]



You have no credibility Green Boy. More than 100 people at the demo. Hard to round up the usual mob on a long weekend. That's hard to understand as the usual rent-a-crowd would be anti-christian. They don't mind having christian holidays all the same. Hypocrites!

More than 100 people. What was the official figure...122...109...111? More people were at Woolworths at Parramatta than the gig out at Villawood. Those detainees don't have to remain in detention. They can always return to their country of birth.




Are you stereotyping christians as uncaring. If so, then I disagree.

Protests were across the country and this report is from only one of these protests.

Also, a part of the reason to protest is to get discussion around the issue of protest.

Thank you for your assistance.


Now why do you support more of medicare being spent on self inflicted mental illness for these new Australians, when it could be spent in other areas of medicare?

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Theres also Israelis overstaying their visas and ending up in detention centres as well  Grin
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adelcrow wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:55pm:
Theres also Israelis overstaying their visas and ending up in detention centres as well  Grin


I am talking of refugees though, not Israelis. We cOmes as students.
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Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:57pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
skippy. wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:50pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 9th, 2012 at 5:44pm:
I think Australia must ensure it keeps the Aussie citizens safe first of all.

Terrorists can be hiding as refugees you know.

You must take big care to make sure you do not make allowance for their sad stories because it can be fake you know.

That is my view on this,

Yea if I was a terrorist I'd hop on a leaky boat to travel thousands of KMs at sea on the off chance I might make it to OZ so I could then blow the sh it out of something. Wow ,do you people think up these fantasies for yourself or are you stupid enough to read it in the tabloids?????


I has personal experience in my country of terrorists pretend to be refugees.

It do happen and Australia should be care who it allow into it.




Terrorists, like Israeli secret service can forge passports and enter via airports.

Israel–New Zealand passport scandal

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal
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