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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #15 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 7:40am Eh yeah. Thanks for your contribution, incontinence.
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Reply #16 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 7:52am

Incomptinence wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 2:40pm:

I did some denialist style research into the relevance of the second world war to current climate debate and found some shocking results.

http://i42.tinypic.com/8wml3p.jpg

See global warming makes nazis stronger! We better ignore it or they might win ww2 and change history!

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #17 - Apr 19^th, 2012 at 9:19am It's not polite to laugh at the ignorant, SOB.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #18 - Apr 19^th, 2012 at 3:28pm rates-of-change = DONE!!!
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Reply #19 - May 13^th, 2012 at 8:37am

Nothing is too ridiculous for some boffins.

Dinosaur flatulence may have led to global warming

Monday, May 7, 2012 - 11:01 in Paleontology & Archaeology

Dinosaurs may have warmed the prehistoric Earth's climate thanks to enormous amounts of methane-producing flatulence, researchers say.

Just BTW, there is an awful lot of 'may', 'might', 'could' in the whole climate change/global warming speculation. Perhaps climate science could be renamed climate speculation.

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Reply #20 - May 13^th, 2012 at 8:49am

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Just BTW, there is an awful lot of 'may', 'might', 'could' in the whole climate change/global warming speculation. Perhaps climate science could be renamed climate speculation.

That's what's called grasping at straws. Ok, so the latest argument goes something like this:

A paper that speculates on dinosaur flatulence is relevant to established atmospheric physics and its application to project changes in global climate. Huh

Hmmmmm

So tell me professor, what temperature rise is projected for Sydney between now and 2150?
- Oh, well it's uncertain
- because we don't know how much fossil fuel will be burned in the next 138 years?

Well actually no. It's because a new study indicates that dinosaurs ate beans.

Can I laugh now? Grin

Maybe we could apply that principle to all arguments. Is there a God? - Answer: I don't know, but I think dinosaurs might have farted.

Do you think abortion is justified? Dunno, but I reckon dinosaurs farted.

When will we run out of oil. Well, based on current projections..... eeew what's that smell? (I think a dinosaur just farted) Well really!!?? There are so many if's and maybe's in your argument. Peak Oil is just a load of ...... dinosaur flatulence.

I think I'll call it "Reductio ad Dinosauri" It goes something like this - Any peripheral study can be taken as central to any given issue. (especially when said with a straight face)

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #21 - May 13^th, 2012 at 8:59am muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:49am: [quote] Can I laugh now? Yeah, join in. I've been laughing for a while.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #22 - May 13^th, 2012 at 9:08am Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:59am: muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:49am: [quote] Can I laugh now? Yeah, join in. I've been laughing for a while. "Reductio ad dinosauri" must make you eligible for some kind of award.
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Reply #23 - May 13^th, 2012 at 9:39am

muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:49am:

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Can I laugh now? Grin

Yeah, join in. I've been laughing for a while.

"Reductio ad dinosauri" must make you eligible for some kind of award.

What? Are you mocking 'the science'??

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(12)00329-6

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Reply #24 - May 14^th, 2012 at 10:33am

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 9:39am:

muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

muso wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 8:49am:

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Can I laugh now? Grin

Yeah, join in. I've been laughing for a while.

"Reductio ad dinosauri" must make you eligible for some kind of award.

What? Are you mocking 'the science'??

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(12)00329-6

No, no.... I'm sure it's a very interesting paper - just not for me.

I'm mocking your capacity to take any peripheral study that is totally unrelated to the core of atmospheric physics, and turn it into a climate denialist blockbuster.

OK to give an analogy from medicine, it's like relating a study of dental hygiene to a study of the epidemiology of tarsal bone fractures in the Australian population.

Well they both relate to human beings and ...people have been known to break their wrists at the dentists.

So we can conclude that dental hygiene is not an exact science because it fails to take into consideration the study of the incidence of wrist fractures, which has only just come out. (

The Science is not settled!

- you hiss)

Reductio ad dinasauri - Any peripheral study can be taken as central to any given issue. (especially when said with a straight face)

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #25 - May 14^th, 2012 at 11:06am muso wrote on May 14^th, 2012 at 10:33am: OK to give an analogy Funny guy.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #26 - May 14^th, 2012 at 2:34pm Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2012 at 11:06am: muso wrote on May 14^th, 2012 at 10:33am: OK to give an analogy Funny guy. Thank you, but I still think you deserve the award for Soren's Law and Reductio Ad Dinosauri. You invented two new logical fallacies. You must be proud.
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Reply #27 - May 15^th, 2012 at 5:46pm

muso wrote on May 14^th, 2012 at 10:33am:

I'm mocking your capacity to take any peripheral study that is totally unrelated to the core of atmospheric physics, and turn it into a climate denialist blockbuster.

This is a scientific study in a refereed journal on global warming caused by excessive atmospheric greenhouse gases. How is that peripheral to the study of global warming caused by excessive atmospheric greenhouse gases?

If it's not antropogenic it doesn't count?? Or are you dinophobic? They are all dead so they can't sue you for hurting their feelings, is that it??

Climate denialist? Are there people who deny the climate now?

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Climate Scientists got it wrong.... Reply #28 - May 15^th, 2012 at 6:08pm Soren wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 5:46pm: Climate denialist? Are there people who deny the climate now?
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Reply #29 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:03pm

Soren wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:

How is that peripheral to the study of global warming caused by excessive atmospheric greenhouse gases?

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They are all dead ....

There. You answered your question without my help.

It might be vaguely relevant to the Mesozoic Era, but not to the present day. The study doesn't add to atmospheric physics - it uses atmospheric physics.

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