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Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 5:27am

____ wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 3:54am:

So the Advertiser, part of News Corp, organised an event concerning the Murray Darling at Parliament house. Then condemned one side of politics for turning up.

Then ignored a bigger story, Abbott is planning on destroying Adelaide, by cutting the flow of the Murray Darling when we will probably be heading back into drought in a couple of years.
Says a lot, that we already new about News Corp.

Also, Liberals caused the Murray Darling collapse during Abbott's period in the Howard Government, after being warned at the beginning of their 12 year period. The Libs ignored it completely.

Time for Lib's little bitch to come clean. Are they pro destruction of the food bowl, destruction of the water system, destruction of farms, families and the towns/cities. Will gNats ignore Liberals attack on water and agriculture, like the Nats are ignoring Libs attack via CSG.

If so, then they deserve to lose Senate seats to the Katter Party next election. Kater may be hard right, at least he is showing care on the environmental front and so for rural/regional Australia.

Dump a Nat and gain a Kat.

Is the advertiser now party of the labor party. You have got it wrong again, hopeless.

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Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan.
Reply #16 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 5:57am

progressiveslol wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 5:27am:

____ wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 3:54am:

So the Advertiser, part of News Corp, organised an event concerning the Murray Darling at Parliament house. Then condemned one side of politics for turning up.

Then ignored a bigger story, Abbott is planning on destroying Adelaide, by cutting the flow of the Murray Darling when we will probably be heading back into drought in a couple of years.
Says a lot, that we already new about News Corp.

Also, Liberals caused the Murray Darling collapse during Abbott's period in the Howard Government, after being warned at the beginning of their 12 year period. The Libs ignored it completely.

Time for Lib's little bitch to come clean. Are they pro destruction of the food bowl, destruction of the water system, destruction of farms, families and the towns/cities. Will gNats ignore Liberals attack on water and agriculture, like the Nats are ignoring Libs attack via CSG.

If so, then they deserve to lose Senate seats to the Katter Party next election. Kater may be hard right, at least he is showing care on the environmental front and so for rural/regional Australia.

Dump a Nat and gain a Kat.

Is the advertiser now party of the labor party. You have got it wrong again, hopeless.

Advertiser, a paper of News Corp

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan. Reply #18 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:19am progressiveslol wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:06am: . Best comment you have made in weeks
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan. Reply #19 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:21am ____ wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:19am: progressiveslol wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:06am: . Best comment you have made in weeks I am sure. That way you are not held to acoount and your party is not being noticed for what losers they are and how dangerously inept they are. Here, have another "."
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Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan.
Reply #20 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:27am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:37am:

Tear up the Murray Darling Plan....

Good, maybe then they can write a new one that involves the input of the people who live/work along and with the river, and work out a Plan that will actually help the rivers...

OOOH, now there's a good idea, and we will let the perpetrators cross examine the rape victims too how about that.
The whole point here is meaningful action will require sacrifice, seems to be something the people of this country have forgotten about. Nothing is for free, nothing and if it is worth achieving it will require sacrifice. This country is really headed for very very tough times if this me first selfish mentality prevails.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30225 Gender:	Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan. Reply #21 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 6:30am progressiveslol wrote on Mar 25^th, 2012 at 7:50pm: So labor are going to isolate themselves. I have a tip for your isolation. Go to an election, you will get isolated there. No, they'll get liquidated - just like Greens_Liquidated's party was in QLD. Not one seat!!!
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan. Reply #22 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 7:29am so far the MDB plan is nothing more than a report which replaced the previous one which was dumped and was supposed to be the plan which all the states agreed on and didnt. THERE IS NO PLAN and never has been,
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Reply #23 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:27am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

People want the river system fixed and are not relying on once in a lifetime floods

What once in a life time floods are you talking about?

Who’s life time? Surely you don’t mean the current floods? Or last year? Last year didn’t reach 1991, which was way short of 73 and 74 which were way short of 56.

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Reply #24 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:47am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

People want the river system fixed and are not relying on once in a lifetime floods

What once in a life time floods are you talking about?

Who’s life time? Surely you don’t mean the current floods? Or last year? Last year didn’t reach 1991, which was way short of 73 and 74 which were way short of 56.

Undecided

there are a lot of people who rely far too heavily on 'memories' and theirfeore assume if they dont remember it, it didnt happen.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan. Reply #25 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 10:06am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 7:29am: so far the MDB plan is nothing more than a report which replaced the previous one which was dumped and was supposed to be the plan which all the states agreed on and didnt. THERE IS NO PLAN and never has been, Whats the libs plan?
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Reply #26 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 10:07am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 9:27am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

People want the river system fixed and are not relying on once in a lifetime floods

What once in a life time floods are you talking about?

Who’s life time? Surely you don’t mean the current floods? Or last year? Last year didn’t reach 1991, which was way short of 73 and 74 which were way short of 56.

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there are a lot of people who rely far too heavily on 'memories' and theirfeore assume if they dont remember it, it didnt happen.

In ‘91 about 2/3 of NSW was under water and it still didn’t reach the massive ‘56 flood level.

Last year was still about 10 feet short of ‘56.

The lower lakes situation needs to be fixed.

When Flinders mapped the coast in 1803 there was no Murray River mouth. He missed it, we are told to believe.

When Captain Sturt tried for 4 days to reach the mouth in 1830, he wrote…

“Australian rivers fall rapidly from the mountains in which they originate into a level and extremely depressed country; having weak and inconsiderable sources, and being almost wholly unaided by tributaries of any kind; they naturally fail before they reach the coast, and exhaust themselves in marshes or lakes; or reach it so weakened as to be unable to preserve clear or navigable mouths, or to remove the sand banks that the tide throws up before them.”

To suggest the river mouth stayed open in years of prolonged drought, when the main river bed was dry, is just the stuff of fantasies.

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Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan.
Reply #27 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 12:55pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:37am:

Tear up the Murray Darling Plan....

Good, maybe then they can write a new one that involves the input of the people who live/work along and with the river, and work out a Plan that will actually help the rivers...

The Farmers don't want to "help" the Murray. They only want to make the most of the profits they can gain from it then get out of dodge once there is nothing left to take. This is the attitude they've ALWAYS had.

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Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan.
Reply #28 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:37am:

Tear up the Murray Darling Plan....

Good, maybe then they can write a new one that involves the input of the people who live/work along and with the river, and work out a Plan that will actually help the rivers...

The Farmers don't want to "help" the Murray. They only want to make the most of the profits they can gain from it then get out of dodge once there is nothing left to take. This is the attitude they've ALWAYS had.

Australian farmers have employed many new practices to ensure better water usage. From drip and micro spray irrigation, soil moisture monitoring, minimum tillage to name a few.

Boring hacks like you, that must eat dirt for nutrition, will never forward the cause for the betterment of the MDB and the people of OZ.

You are warts on the arse of progress.

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Re: Abbott will tear up Murray Darling Plan.
Reply #29 - Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:55pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 1:37am:

Tear up the Murray Darling Plan....

Good, maybe then they can write a new one that involves the input of the people who live/work along and with the river, and work out a Plan that will actually help the rivers...

The Farmers don't want to "help" the Murray. They only want to make the most of the profits they can gain from it then get out of dodge once there is nothing left to take. This is the attitude they've ALWAYS had.

Australian farmers have employed many new practices to ensure better water usage. From drip and micro spray irrigation, soil moisture monitoring, minimum tillage to name a few.

Boring hacks like you, that must eat dirt for nutrition, will never forward the cause for the betterment of the MDB and the people of OZ.

You are warts on the arse of progress.

Farmers do that, which is great, but its purely profit driven. Get the most out of the avaliable water they are given.

Thats totally different than the overall regulation of the riven basin in deciding how much every farmer can be given without killing the river.
Another issue is how much natural run-off can be captured by the farmer, and how much is allowed to enter the system for those downstream.

Abbott is once again going for the populist vote now that we are in the flood cycle and there is plenty of water around. Come the next drought we will be right back where we started from... Abbott is hoping hes long gone by then.

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