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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #75 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:17pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 6:56am:

About three times as many seekers travel to Australia by plane than by sea.

Did you pluck that number from your ass?

Sounds a bit low, doesn't it?

"13 Times More Illegal Immigrants Arrive By Plane Than By Boat"

"Figures obtained by The Advertiser from the Immigration Department and under the Freedom of Information Act show plane arrivals from the United States (5080) and Britain (3610) are near the top of the list of those in the country without a valid visa. China (8070), and Malaysia (4200) round out the top four."

http://www.gettingdownunder.com/2011/11/21/13-times-more-illegal-immigrants-arri...

"Asylum-seekers arrive by plane, not boat"

"EVERY day, at least 13 asylum-seekers enter Australia through airports, representing 30 times the number of boat people that are supposedly "flooding" across our maritime borders."

http://www.news.com.au/national/asylum-seekers-arrive-by-plane-not-boat/story-e6...

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #76 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:24pm

adelcrow wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 11:25am:

brumbie wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 8:13am:

Probably been mentioned before but what was the % again of boat people who never work again and end up on disability pensions for the rest of???

Why don't you do some research and then come back here and let us all know?

I expect the figure will be fairly low.

The leftist government did not include Pensions with centrelink payments in their settlement report, i think they are trying to hide the numbers of country shopping economic migrants who end up on the pension.

Bad backs dont get an easy pension these days so these economic migrants claim mental illness was caused by Australians and sue for compensation.
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Refugees set to sue Australian government for millions for psychological damage

Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

Dr Steel said the basis for most lawsuits was psychiatric harm caused by trauma experienced in detention centres,including riots,self harm,etc
Source-http://www.news.com.au/national/refugees-set-to-sue-australia-for-millions-for-p...

I would say all those who plan on lawsuits for psychological damage will never work again and that is a large number of them.

The dim witted leftards actually believe this cock and bull story that people are traumatised in our detention centres that give people free internet,free mobile phones along with free cigarettes while they also have large screen tv to watch.
The leftards are happy in paying outageous amounts in compensation to these economic migrants.

Iran will execute you for apostasy,blasphemy,being an enemy of god,no homosexuals in Iran they hang you for that,they will stone you to death for adultery yet none of this caused any emotional harm to these people who were suddenly traumatised by the handouts from Australian taxpayers and desire compensation.
Amnesty has an article about human rights abuses in Iran,none of this contributed to their mental illness because the Iranian government will not compensate them yet if they claim Australia was the cause of their mental illness the leftards give them compensation.
http://www.amnesty.org/library/asset/MDE13/012/2009/en/6355979b-f779-11dd-8fd7-f...

The dim witted leftards actually believe our detention centres are the cause of the mental health problems for these country shopping economic migrants and these mental problems has nothing to do with the barbaric regimes like the Taliban and the Mad Mullahs they fled from.

83.5% of all boat people are still claiming centrelink benefits up to 5 years after arriving in Australia

There were 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled a policy that stopped the boats.

Only 4 boat people in detention?
Where were the 4,000 asylum seekers a year that flew in under Howards watch kept?

Not in any other mainland detention centres bar Villawood.
Why?
The Howard government closed down detention centres on the mainland.
Those four referred to above were the last of the boat people held on Nauru.
When a border protection policy functions, a good government can close down excess detention centres.
Pity, we don't have one of those anymore.
This government can't open enough of them.

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #77 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:35pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 6:56am:

About three times as many seekers travel to Australia by plane than by sea.

Did you pluck that number from your ass?

Not sure whose ass this came from, but I'm sure you'll want to investigate:

"EVERY day, at least 13 asylum-seekers enter Australia through airports, representing 30 times the number of boat people that are supposedly "flooding" across our maritime borders. "

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/asylum-seekers-arrive-by-plane-not-boat/story-e6frfkvr-1225790981775#ixzz1peF8pyit

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #78 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:36pm

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Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

It breaks my heart. Cry

All those taxpayer funded appeals he got his lawyers to launch when he kept receiving the wrong determination from the Department on his asylum status meant he had to stay in detention longer.
So he thought by sewing his lips together and attempting suicide he could force the Department into changing it's mind.

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #79 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:45pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 6:56am:

About three times as many seekers travel to Australia by plane than by sea.

Did you pluck that number from your ass?

Sounds a bit low, doesn't it?

"13 Times More Illegal Immigrants Arrive By Plane Than By Boat"

"Figures obtained by The Advertiser from the Immigration Department and under the Freedom of Information Act show plane arrivals from the United States (5080) and Britain (3610) are near the top of the list of those in the country without a valid visa. China (8070), and Malaysia (4200) round out the top four."

http://www.gettingdownunder.com/2011/11/21/13-times-more-illegal-immigrants-arri...

"Asylum-seekers arrive by plane, not boat"

"EVERY day, at least 13 asylum-seekers enter Australia through airports, representing 30 times the number of boat people that are supposedly "flooding" across our maritime borders."

http://www.news.com.au/national/asylum-seekers-arrive-by-plane-not-boat/story-e6...

A visa overstayer cannot claim asylum the migration act is very clear with this.

A visa overstayer is not an asylum seeker they cannot claim asylum they get deported if they dont leave voluntarily.
The leftards include visa overstayers who will be deported and cannot claim centrelink in their numbers of air arrivals.
It is pathetic and dishonest of the leftards to say a visa overstayer who arrived by plane is somehow comparable to boat person who chucks their passport away before claiming asylum.

Your other link
In 2007-08 ,3987 claims for asylum were received and 1930 of these were approved.
That is less than half (48%) who arrive by plane with a valid visa and passport who are considered genuine refugees.

Yet these leftards think those who come by boat are all genuine.
3200 out of 3237 boat people surveyed said they disposed of their passports before coming to Australia by boat after flying into Indonesia.

Plane arrivals-Have passport and valid visa yet Less than half are refugees by your link!
Boat arrivals- chuck away your passport like almost 99% of them do and the useful idiots from the left will say you are genuine.

I think it is pathetic how the leftards try to add visa overstayers who arrive by plane with a visa and passport who cannot claim asylum or centrelink or dept of housing or medicare to the numbers of asylum seekers arriving by plane.

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #80 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:55pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:36pm:

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Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

It breaks my heart. Cry

All those taxpayer funded appeals he got his lawyers to launch when he kept receiving the wrong determination from the Department on his asylum status meant he had to stay in detention longer.
So he thought by sewing his lips together and attempting suicide he could force the Department into changing it's mind.

Yes they try and blackmail us with self harm.

They are Iranian and traumatised from Australians it had nothing to do with the Islamic regime according to the dim witted leftards.

Muslims who flee from the Political,Social,Economic and moral failures of Islamic countries still come with Islam because they fail to recognise it is Islam that explains these Political,Social,Economic and moral failures

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #81 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:17pm

This is very good point.

You know when Muslims run from the terror,, is because of failures of Islam and the Muslim policy of oppression to the women.

But they come to the west country and then also wish to still bring the Islam too, for me is crazy,,

I also say i do know some Arab Muslims that has live near in Tel Aviv

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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #82 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 7:55pm:

Muslims who flee from the Political,Social,Economic and moral failures of Islamic countries still come with Islam because they fail to recognise it is Islam that explains these Political,Social,Economic and moral failures

Everywhere they go, they take the weather with them. Islam is their 'weather'.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN! Reply #83 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:31pm Oh look. An Islamophobic circle jerk. What a surprise.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN! Reply #84 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:53pm Uh-oh. Another rotten egg. Anyone who say' 'islamophobia' is a rotten egg. You join galah, I'm afraid. BTW, how's apostasy, bad egg? Confusing?
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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #85 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 10:27pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Oh look. An Islamophobic circle jerk.

What a surprise.

You seem to be in a good mood Annie, Is your husband out with his other wife?Perhaps he might be looking for a second wife?
He could be out with a pox infected $5 dollar hooker we know misyar nikah (temporary marriage) are alllowed for sunni muslims in these times of lust.
We know it is Australian law that tries to prevent polygamy yet it is OK in Islam.

Islamophobia is a bullshit word invented by muslims to demonise critics of Islam to silence them because Islam is a fascist ideology that usually beheads critics of Islam, they have a blasphemy law to justify killing critics of Islam.

Islamophobia is a word that is technically and logically incorrect which is what you expect to get from Islam.

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Phobia
(n)a persistent,irrational fear of a specific object ,activity,or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Phobia

Islam is a ideology,a set of beliefs it is a fallacy that one can be phobic of an ideology.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN! Reply #86 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 11:14pm Baron Whojoomeflick asks: "Did you pluck that number from your ass?" No, I actually prised it out of your ass. It was a hard job, too, you really should eat more roughage.
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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #87 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 11:14pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 10:27pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 20^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Oh look. An Islamophobic circle jerk.

What a surprise.

You seem to be in a good mood Annie, Is your husband out with his other wife?Perhaps he might be looking for a second wife?
He could be out with a pox infected $5 dollar hooker we know misyar nikah (temporary marriage) are alllowed for sunni muslims in these times of lust.

Stop projecting your fantasies onto my husband.

You'll throw the rhythm you and your circle buddies have going.

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BTW, how's apostasy, bad egg? Confusing?

Bad egg? You're slipping.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN! Reply #88 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 11:21pm Avram, I don't think you're on sound ground when you say that Muslims fleeing terror is necessarily a fault of their religion. Saddam Hussein, for example, ran a largely secular state.
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Reply #89 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 11:37pm

Peter -- a lot of Muslims they go from the country because of laws and government base on islamic law.

See Somalia, as the stonings,, see Saudi and the women not allowed anything,, see afghanistan and taliban beatings of women and not allow to study and have job etc,,

Please this is religion of Islam which makes them must leave yes?

I know as peoples have said that there is not so good Jewish actions before on women and Orthodox problems,, i know this but is not my argument this time,

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