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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #60 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:35am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Avram, you are a treasure.  No matter your age you are wise beyond your years. In the words of the Irish poem:

May the road rise to meet you,
May the wind be always at your back,
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
The rains fall soft upon your fields and,
Until we meet again,
May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

And an Irish toast:

As you slide down the banisters of life, may the splinters always point the wrong way


I agree with you about the Palestinian attacks, they must stop. But so must Israeli retaliation which has cost far more lives.

Sometime the leader of at least one of these two nations has to decide to stop retaliating, no matter what the temptation. Hard to do.

Most people in the world want peace above all else. That includes both Israelis and Palestinians.

If Israelis stop retaliating, then surely the peaceable Palestinians will eventually believe that Jews are not bad people and to live alongside them could be both safe and pleasurable.


Mmmmm. I think they tried that bit.
Are you Irish???
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Reply #61 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:37am
 
Peter -- yes we can hope for peace,, as can too be said

Tzetekh l'shalom v'shuvekh l'shalom - go but also return with peace too,

Is different arguments I see here but for me just be care of terror suspects who hide in the refugees,

They can do this and you believe their story's which are false,,

We experience this many times as refugee camps is hiding place for Palestinian terror who bomb schoolchildren on bus too,

Australia is nice country be care to keep out terror people's as you are far away you can do this
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Reply #62 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:41am
 
Mmmmm. I think they tried that bit.
Are you Irish???



Close.............he is a New Zealander.

Maybe Woodies love child.
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Reply #63 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:44am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Peter -- yes we can hope for peace,, as can too be said

Tzetekh l'shalom v'shuvekh l'shalom - go but also return with peace too,

Is different arguments I see here but for me just be care of terror suspects who hide in the refugees,

They can do this and you believe their story's which are false,,

We experience this many times as refugee camps is hiding place for Palestinian terror who bomb schoolchildren on bus too,

Australia is nice country be care to keep out terror people's as you are far away you can do this


The Sri Lankan government has already warned our government last year of the very real possibility of Tamil Tiger terrorists escaping justice in Sri Lanka, heading for Christmas Island on a smugglers boat and our government has done nothing.
Naturally, they arrive with no passports or identification.
Why?
They have something to hide.
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Reply #64 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:25am:
brumbie wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 8:13am:
Probably been mentioned before but what was the % again of boat people who never work again and end up on disability pensions for the rest of???



Why don't you do some research and then come back here and let us all know?

I expect the figure will be fairly low.


The leftist government did not include Pensions with centrelink payments in their settlement report, i think they are trying to hide the numbers of country shopping economic migrants who end up on the pension.

Bad backs dont get an easy pension these days so these economic migrants claim mental illness was caused by Australians and sue for compensation.
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Refugees set to sue Australian government for millions  for psychological damage

Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

Dr Steel said the basis for most lawsuits was psychiatric harm caused by trauma experienced in detention centres,including riots,self harm,etc
Source-http://www.news.com.au/national/refugees-set-to-sue-australia-for-millions-for-p...


I would say all those who plan on lawsuits for psychological damage will never work again and that is a large number of them.

The dim witted leftards actually believe this cock and bull story that people are traumatised in our detention centres that give people free internet,free mobile phones along with free cigarettes while they also have large screen tv to watch.
The leftards are happy in paying outageous amounts in compensation to these economic migrants.

Iran will execute you for apostasy,blasphemy,being an enemy of god,no homosexuals in Iran they hang you for that,they will stone you to death for adultery yet none of this caused any emotional harm to these people who were suddenly traumatised by the handouts from Australian taxpayers and desire compensation.
Amnesty has an article about human rights abuses in Iran,none of this contributed to their mental illness because the Iranian government will not compensate them yet if they claim Australia was the cause of their mental illness the leftards give them compensation.
http://www.amnesty.org/library/asset/MDE13/012/2009/en/6355979b-f779-11dd-8fd7-f...

The dim witted leftards actually believe our detention centres are the cause of the mental health problems for these country shopping economic migrants and these mental problems has nothing to do with the barbaric regimes like the Taliban and the Mad Mullahs they fled from.


83.5% of all boat people are still claiming centrelink benefits up to 5 years after arriving in Australia

There were 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled a policy that stopped the boats.







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Reply #65 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:49pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:15am:
If Israelis stop retaliating, then surely the peaceable Palestinians will eventually believe that Jews are not bad people and to live alongside them could be both safe and pleasurable.



Typical leftard calling on Israel to stop retaliating while they say nothing about all the rockets fired into Israel.

So how many rockets should they endure before retaliating?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

The Arab-Jew problem is a conflict based on religion,Islam hates the Jews.

"they are enemies not becaue they occupied Palestine,they would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing"
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Reply #66 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:03pm
 
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I would say all those who plan on lawsuits for psychological damage will never work again and that is a large number of them.

The dim witted leftards actually believe this cock and bull story that people are traumatised in our detention centres that give people free internet,free mobile phones along with free cigarettes while they also have large screen tv to watch.

The leftards are happy in paying outageous amounts in compensation to these economic migrants.
Iran will execute you for apostasy,blasphemy,being an enemy of god,no homosexuals in Iran they hang you for that,they will stone you to death for adultery yet none of this caused any emotional harm to these people who were suddenly traumatised by the handouts from Australian taxpayers and desire compensation.

Amnesty has an article about human rights abuses in Iran,none of this contributed to their mental illness because the Iranian government will not compensate them yet if they claim Australia was the cause of their mental illness the leftards give them compensation.
[url]The dim witted leftards actually believe our detention centres are the cause of the mental health problems for these country shopping economic migrants and these mental problems has nothing to do with the barbaric regimes like the Taliban and the Mad Mullahs they fled from.


Yes, it's our free internet / free pay TV / free gym membership that's traumatising them.
It wasn't the months of being in an Iranian prison having bamboo spikes poked up the fingernails that did it.
This is a rort, and the gullable Labor government is falling for it hook line and sinker.
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Re: Oh, no, not asylum seekers AGAIN!
Reply #67 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:10pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:49pm:
Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:15am:
If Israelis stop retaliating, then surely the peaceable Palestinians will eventually believe that Jews are not bad people and to live alongside them could be both safe and pleasurable.



Typical leftard calling on Israel to stop retaliating while they say nothing about all the rockets fired into Israel.

So how many rockets should they endure before retaliating?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

The Arab-Jew problem is a conflict based on religion,Islam hates the Jews.

"they are enemies not becaue they occupied Palestine,they would have been enemies even if they did not occupy a thing"


Your video says it all Baronvonrort.
If the Palestinians laid down there arms tomorrow there would be peace.
If Israel laid down there arms tomorrow, they would be destroyed the day after.
This simple fact escapes your average left wing useful idiot.
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Reply #68 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:12pm
 
Raves the Baron: Typical leftard calling on Israel to stop retaliating while they say nothing about all the rockets fired into Israel.

Thanks Baron. So what did I mean when I said the Palestian rockets must stop?

Some people are silly and their silliness can be pointed out.

Some do it all by themselves........ Wink
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Reply #69 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:17pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:25am:
brumbie wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 8:13am:
Probably been mentioned before but what was the % again of boat people who never work again and end up on disability pensions for the rest of???



Why don't you do some research and then come back here and let us all know?

I expect the figure will be fairly low.


The leftist government did not include Pensions with centrelink payments in their settlement report, i think they are trying to hide the numbers of country shopping economic migrants who end up on the pension.

Bad backs dont get an easy pension these days so these economic migrants claim mental illness was caused by Australians and sue for compensation.
Quote:
Refugees set to sue Australian government for millions  for psychological damage

Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

Dr Steel said the basis for most lawsuits was psychiatric harm caused by trauma experienced in detention centres,including riots,self harm,etc
Source-http://www.news.com.au/national/refugees-set-to-sue-australia-for-millions-for-p...


I would say all those who plan on lawsuits for psychological damage will never work again and that is a large number of them.

The dim witted leftards actually believe this cock and bull story that people are traumatised in our detention centres that give people free internet,free mobile phones along with free cigarettes while they also have large screen tv to watch.
The leftards are happy in paying outageous amounts in compensation to these economic migrants.

Iran will execute you for apostasy,blasphemy,being an enemy of god,no homosexuals in Iran they hang you for that,they will stone you to death for adultery yet none of this caused any emotional harm to these people who were suddenly traumatised by the handouts from Australian taxpayers and desire compensation.
Amnesty has an article about human rights abuses in Iran,none of this contributed to their mental illness because the Iranian government will not compensate them yet if they claim Australia was the cause of their mental illness the leftards give them compensation.
http://www.amnesty.org/library/asset/MDE13/012/2009/en/6355979b-f779-11dd-8fd7-f...

The dim witted leftards actually believe our detention centres are the cause of the mental health problems for these country shopping economic migrants and these mental problems has nothing to do with the barbaric regimes like the Taliban and the Mad Mullahs they fled from.


83.5% of all boat people are still claiming centrelink benefits up to 5 years after arriving in Australia

There were 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled a policy that stopped the boats.









Only 4 boat people in detention?
Where were the 4,000 asylum seekers a year that flew in under Howards watch kept?
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Reply #70 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 3:06pm
 
For those expressing interest in my ancestry, thanks.

I am a mixture of Polish, German, Irish and gin and tonic. There cannot be much Irish in me because I just can't take  that sticky black tar they put in a glass and call it a drink.

But the feisty personality some people allege I have is probably my Irish side coming out. As with many Irish sides this one comes out the day before the game and has to go back under the stand again. By the time the other side is ready to play, the Irishmen has been distracted by the nearest pub.

I love the Irish, they are the world's most beautiful people open, hospitable and very heart warming. They'll give you the shirt off their back and then offer you their back as well.

In the old days when Athletic Park was the HQ of Wellington rugby I watched a test between Ireland and NZ. It was not a bad day, but the rugby was foul, plain boring as the game often was in those days.

Of course the Irish had their supporters' group, the Even More Barmy Army and shortly before kickoff they were followed by the Barmiest Army Of All. These coves were so drunk they kept complaining that their seats needed to be tied down to stop them rolling.

The moment the game began they fell asleep and snored happily throughout the match. I suspect they were the only fans that day who enjoyed themselves.





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Reply #71 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 3:22pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm:
Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 11:25am:
brumbie wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 8:13am:
Probably been mentioned before but what was the % again of boat people who never work again and end up on disability pensions for the rest of???



Why don't you do some research and then come back here and let us all know?

I expect the figure will be fairly low.


The leftist government did not include Pensions with centrelink payments in their settlement report, i think they are trying to hide the numbers of country shopping economic migrants who end up on the pension.

Bad backs dont get an easy pension these days so these economic migrants claim mental illness was caused by Australians and sue for compensation.
Quote:
Refugees set to sue Australian government for millions  for psychological damage

Mrs Yousefis husband sewed his lips together and attempted suicide several times while in detention
In 2008 Mr Yousefi was awarded damages of more than $800,000.
Mrs Yousefi was quoted in 2008 as saying her husband would never work again and would require medical care for the rest of his life

Dr Steel said the basis for most lawsuits was psychiatric harm caused by trauma experienced in detention centres,including riots,self harm,etc
Source-http://www.news.com.au/national/refugees-set-to-sue-australia-for-millions-for-p...


I would say all those who plan on lawsuits for psychological damage will never work again and that is a large number of them.

The dim witted leftards actually believe this cock and bull story that people are traumatised in our detention centres that give people free internet,free mobile phones along with free cigarettes while they also have large screen tv to watch.
The leftards are happy in paying outageous amounts in compensation to these economic migrants.

Iran will execute you for apostasy,blasphemy,being an enemy of god,no homosexuals in Iran they hang you for that,they will stone you to death for adultery yet none of this caused any emotional harm to these people who were suddenly traumatised by the handouts from Australian taxpayers and desire compensation.
Amnesty has an article about human rights abuses in Iran,none of this contributed to their mental illness because the Iranian government will not compensate them yet if they claim Australia was the cause of their mental illness the leftards give them compensation.
http://www.amnesty.org/library/asset/MDE13/012/2009/en/6355979b-f779-11dd-8fd7-f...

The dim witted leftards actually believe our detention centres are the cause of the mental health problems for these country shopping economic migrants and these mental problems has nothing to do with the barbaric regimes like the Taliban and the Mad Mullahs they fled from.


83.5% of all boat people are still claiming centrelink benefits up to 5 years after arriving in Australia

There were 4 boat people in detention when labor dismantled a policy that stopped the boats.









Only 4 boat people in detention?
Where were the 4,000 asylum seekers a year that flew in under Howards watch kept?


Yes there were only 4 boat people in detention when Labor dismantled the policy that stopped the boats which has resulted in a billion dollar debacle.

We have mandatory detention for asylum seekers so why does this number you never cite any evidence for contradict detention centre stats?

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Reply #72 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 20th, 2012 at 2:12pm:
Raves the Baron: Typical leftard calling on Israel to stop retaliating while they say nothing about all the rockets fired into Israel.

Thanks Baron. So what did I mean when I said the Palestian rockets must stop?



Do you think the Palestinians will listen to you or their Imam who preaches "Itbach el Yahud"?

It is the Islamic ideology that drives this conflct between the Arab-jew and  until you confront this ideology the problem will not go away.

The leftards also think Islam can be reformed, the persecution of Ahmadi muslims for a few reforms should be evidence Islam cannot reform.

The leftists think Islam should be appeased.




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Reply #73 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 5:58pm
 
Baron you are such a big person that you can't even admit you got something wrong.

You have no idea what other people think. Half the time you don't even know what you think. The other half, most of it spent here, you show no ability to think at all.

Goodbye and good luck. Wink
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Reply #74 - Mar 20th, 2012 at 6:35pm
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Mar 19th, 2012 at 6:56am:
About three times as many seekers travel to Australia by plane than by sea.


Did you pluck that number from your ass?

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