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Reply #135 - May 19th, 2013 at 10:47pm
 
There’s that doublethink again. It looks like Honky’s the only one who can pierce through the veils of ignorance with such laser-like clarity.

One rule for all. Dog breeds and human sub-species alike.

Do you have anymore dog photos, Honky? One with red lippie and a Betty Grable hairdo, thanks.

Honk if you’re hornty.
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Reply #136 - May 19th, 2013 at 10:51pm
 
Big Donger wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 10:47pm:
It looks like Honky’s the only one who can pierce through the veils of ignorance with such laser-like clarity.



Sometimes it feels that way, but apparently there's another 2-3% who potentially could too. 

Anyhoo, did someone say this thread needed more dog?

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Reply #137 - May 19th, 2013 at 11:19pm
 
Bunch of inbreds. Not one sub-species in the lot.

Internet porn for dog racists. I can hear honking, you know.
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Reply #138 - May 20th, 2013 at 12:54am
 
Big Donger wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 9:19pm:
JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 6:55pm:
Big Donger wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 6:49pm:
JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 6:29pm:
https://www.23andme.com/ancestry/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Search-Beta-Ancestry-Intl&utm_term=mid236&gclid=CK6GhY7gobcCFQRapQodvSsA5A


See your ancestry composition.

Find out what percent of your DNA comes from each of the 22 worldwide populations we analyze, ranging from East Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, Europe, and more. Get unprecedented insight into European Ancestry, broken down into distinct ancestral origins such as Great Britain, Ireland, Scandinavia, Italy, Ashkenazi Jewish, and more. Individuals of mixed ancestry, African Americans, Latinos, and Native Americans can get an accurate breakdown of ancestry as well.

Monica is a real 23andMe customer who has provided her consent to share her beautiful Ancestry Composition.



Great answer, Imperium. Utterly inscrutable.

You weren’t once called 1nner Health Plus for nothing, I see.

Does this constitute academic freedom?


hows it inscrutable? its a website that offers a service to people - you send them your dna and they find out what your ancestry is. aka theyre finding out youyr race, your ethnicity, your geographic origins (whatever it is) - from your dna.

these services are offered everywehere.


Is it legit? You’re saying they can find all this out from a strand of your hair? How accurate is it?


I’ll answer my own question after reviewing the site.

Absolute bollocks - the sort of thing Alan Jones would advertise if the Third Reich was still going.

"European Ancestry, broken down into distinct ancestral origins such as England, Ireland, Scandinavian..."

Impossible. If anyone believes this, they’re dumber than I would ever have imagined knuckleheads to be.

Which is saying something, because I don’t give them much credit as it is. Worse than the Blood Type diet, Imperium. This one’s a real doozy.

I’ve a good mind to get one for Honky. They claim to do neanderthal percentage.

How about canine?
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Reply #139 - May 20th, 2013 at 8:27am
 
Are you qualified to give a review?
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Reply #140 - May 20th, 2013 at 8:39am
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23andMe

23andMe is a privately held personal genomics and biotechnology company based in Mountain View, California[1] that provides rapid genetic testing. The company is named for the 23 pairs of chromosomes in a normal human cell. Their personal genome test kit was named "Invention of the Year" by Time magazine in 2008.[2]

In 2008, Time magazine named the company's saliva-based DNA-testing service "Invention of the Year". The service and ability to map significant portions of the genome has raised controversial questions including whether the results can be meaningfully interpreted, and if they will lead to genetic discrimination. The states of New York and California unsuccessfully attempted to block the tests (provided by 23andMe as well as other companies) under the grounds that they were not properly licensed[2] and attempted to require tests to be conducted only when ordered by a physician.[12][13] By August 2008, 23andMe had received licenses that allow them to continue to do business in California.[14]


karnal do you actually know how these measures work

they work by taking your genes and then measuring them against other peoples genes

then this can be charted into clusters of group relatedness

amazingly, people with shared geography tend to be related / more genetically similiar than people who dont share their geography so thus they cluster together

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races are just super relatedness clumps that span continents


http://infoproc.blogspot.com.au/2008/01/no-scientific-basis-for-race.html
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Reply #141 - May 20th, 2013 at 10:11am
 
Exactly. Statistics, innit. In other words, according to people’s self identified racial data, they give you a result which may or may not be a statistical likelihood.

I have no issue with their other DNA testing, but DNA can’t tell the difference between Micks and Poms. There’s no measurable difference. And how could there be? They’ve intermarried for generations.

The only test that can tell you where you were born is a bone cell test that measures soil trace elements from region to region. Even this is problematic now as we ship our food around. This test is often used by archaeologists.

Saying where your ancestors were born? It’s not yet possible.

Mind you, if everyone’s DNA was taken at birth and cross-checked against everyone else’s, I do think this could one day be possible. It’s not a comfortable idea, but I’ll bet this is the norm some time in the future.
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Reply #142 - May 20th, 2013 at 10:14am
 
... wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 8:27am:
Are you qualified to give a review?


Absolutely not.

I’m qualified to give out bones though.
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Reply #143 - May 31st, 2013 at 10:21pm
 
Islamophobia Comes to Canberra

by Mark Durie  May 31, 2013 at 3:00 am

Are we to let our freedoms be shaped by the worst kind of intolerance found in the sharia badlands? How will discrimination among religions based on fear distort human rights?

Like student magazines all over the world, Woroni, put out by students at the Australian National University, publishes satire. It did when I attended 30 years ago, and it still does today. Much of what is written is offensive to someone or other, but it is a rare day when the university pays any attention.

However last week, The Australian newspaper reported that university authorities responded to a complaint by international students to compel Woroni "to pulp a satirical infographic which described a passage from the Koran as a 'rape fantasy'". Rachel Baxendale wrote:

The University also threatened student authors and editors of the infographic with disciplinary action, including academic exclusion and the withdrawal of the publication's funding.

The piece was a fifth in a satirical series entitled "Advice from Religions" which had previously discussed Catholicism, Scientology, Mormonism and Judaism.

No complaints were received about any of the earlier installments.

The university issued a statement that:

… the infographic breached university rules and Australian Press Council guidelines, as well as posing a threat to the ANU's reputation and security.

"In a world of social media, (there is) potential for material such as the article in question to gain attention and traction in the broader world and potentially harm the interests of the university and the university community," the statement said.

The university cited an ugly demonstration by Muslims which took place in Sydney on September 15, 2012, and the Jyllands-Posten cartoon controversy.

The Sydney demonstration involved protestors displaying placards such as "Behead all those who insult the prophet" and "Sharia will dominate the world."

Baxendale reported that one of the Woroni editors was told by a complainant: "I don't think you understand the seriousness of this. In Pakistan, people get shot for this kind of thing."

This logic is terrifying. People can get shot for many things in Pakistan: for gay sex or for belonging to the wrong Muslim sect. Are we in Australia to let our freedoms be shaped by the worst kinds of intolerance found in the sharia badlands?

Australian National University was motivated by raw fear -- of Islam. They virtually admitted as much. They did not bat an eyelid when diverse religions were mocked week after week in the pages of Woroni, but Islam is different. It seems the university did not even go through the motions of pretending they were acting to protect Muslims: they just didn't want to get hurt.

This is a real example of true Islamophobia, in which an individual or organization discriminates between religions on the basis of the degree to which they fear Islam. The Australian National University has shown itself to be genuinely Islamophobic, yet at the same time, sharia-friendly.

This is the surrender of fear, which aligns with Muhammad's call to non-Muslims to aslim taslam: "Surrender and you will be safe." The Australian National University has acted to secure its safety, but at a great price.

This university could dig deeper and consider two implications of their actions.

One is: Why is it they have such fear of Islam? Do their actions show that they agree with Geert Wilders that "Islam is the problem"? Do they agree that it is Islam's own theological characteristics that have caused Australia's leading university to threaten its students with expulsion, simply for doing what students have always done?

The second question is: How will discrimination among religions based upon the criterion of fear distort human rights and the very fabric of the society in which we live? Are we to bow down before Islamic dogmas in every domain of life, out of the fear of being shot "as in Pakistan"? Will the demands of Islamic sharia determine the boundaries of human safety in every corner of the globe, as the September 2012 Sydney protestors so brazenly demanded?

Mark Durie is an Anglican pastor and an Associate Fellow at the Middle Eastern Forum.

I know it is islamophobic to ask questions about Islam but question must be asked precisely because questioning is labelled islamophobic.

Muslims are invited to nominate areas of Islam that are OK to question.  None are known yet.




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