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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here? Reply #75 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 8:25pm Is this low-level waste?
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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #76 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

longweekend,
Wouldnt you rather be using renewable energy tho?

id rathe be flying a rocket pack to work and shops as well. but i am constrained by REALITY. R/E is not the saviour of the environment nor is it anywhere near an economic substitute for fossil energy at this stage.

What I WANT still ahs to match up with what i can actually HAVE.

its only in green-inspired wankfests that the luxury of expecting everythign I want seems to matter.

You say you are constrained by reality yet you have admitted that you believe in fairy tales.. One is a lie because you can’t have both mate.
R/E is definitely an environmental saviour compared to fossils/nuclear and on its own it is about as close as you will get to a saviour.
The economic cost of fossil fuels is huge, it creates death and wars in places like Africa ruins entire ecosystems and is polluting the very air and planet we need to even exist.
It is also extremely ignorant to be dependent a resource which is so heavily monopolised by one small group.
We have an economy and corpocracy which is suppressing the advancement of renewable energy, something that has been a mastered science for over half a century.
Renewable energy is advancement; you cannot have infinite growth in a finite world longweekend.
You share the same problem most in western society have which is not giving a shyt about something until it affects you directly. We need to be adults and solve problems before they get out of hand.

you are missing the point, dimmest of the dim. R/E is not economic yet nor is it in any way able to generate the amount of energy we need. if it could, dont you think we would already be doing that? are you that dim to not realisethat people will always choose cheaper over more expensive?

wake up.

What point am I missing.
As I have explained renewable energy is extremely economic just not in the corrupt system we currently abide under; we can either wither in the dark ages or face the future and reality and follow a system where we do not oppress renewable energies.
Renewable energy can produce much more than we need.
And no clearly we wouldn’t be doing it because we aren’t. How dumb are you not to be able to see through a monopoly just because they say it’s not; use your head.
Without the earth cheaper and expensive cannot exist dimwit.

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #77 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:29am

Gist wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

and in todays lesson on english comprehension we learn that 150years is not the same as infinite.

you are starting to make Greens-lose look educated.

And in today's lesson on sarcasm comprehension we learn that longwhine runs true to his form on everything else and hasn't a clue

was that supposed to be some kind of clever retort?? EPIC FAIL

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #78 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:31am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

longweekend,
Wouldnt you rather be using renewable energy tho?

id rathe be flying a rocket pack to work and shops as well. but i am constrained by REALITY. R/E is not the saviour of the environment nor is it anywhere near an economic substitute for fossil energy at this stage.

What I WANT still ahs to match up with what i can actually HAVE.

its only in green-inspired wankfests that the luxury of expecting everythign I want seems to matter.

You say you are constrained by reality yet you have admitted that you believe in fairy tales.. One is a lie because you can’t have both mate.
R/E is definitely an environmental saviour compared to fossils/nuclear and on its own it is about as close as you will get to a saviour.
The economic cost of fossil fuels is huge, it creates death and wars in places like Africa ruins entire ecosystems and is polluting the very air and planet we need to even exist.
It is also extremely ignorant to be dependent a resource which is so heavily monopolised by one small group.
We have an economy and corpocracy which is suppressing the advancement of renewable energy, something that has been a mastered science for over half a century.
Renewable energy is advancement; you cannot have infinite growth in a finite world longweekend.
You share the same problem most in western society have which is not giving a shyt about something until it affects you directly. We need to be adults and solve problems before they get out of hand.

you are missing the point, dimmest of the dim. R/E is not economic yet nor is it in any way able to generate the amount of energy we need. if it could, dont you think we would already be doing that? are you that dim to not realisethat people will always choose cheaper over more expensive?

wake up.

What point am I missing.
As I have explained renewable energy is extremely economic just not in the corrupt system we currently abide under; we can either wither in the dark ages or face the future and reality and follow a system where we do not oppress renewable energies.
Renewable energy can produce much more than we need.
And no clearly we wouldn’t be doing it because we aren’t. How dumb are you not to be able to see through a monopoly just because they say it’s not; use your head.
Without the earth cheaper and expensive cannot exist dimwit.

not even R/E's most evangelistic proponents make the highlighted claims you make.

you are just making stuff up and thinking it is true.

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #79 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am

Quite simply, the on-going costs of storing nuclear waste for the 1000's of years required would make it too expensive for anyone to use our dump site.

This is just the sort of short sighted policy that some would thrust upon us so that future generations would have to pay the bill, AND have toxic waste.

Madness.

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Reply #80 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:48am

____ wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:35pm:

Nuclear waste headed to South Australia - Greens

Is Adelaide planning on being the capital for the world's nuclear waste.

Ship it in via the port, and past the city.
Also via other states by road.

What is actually the long term plan for LibLabs nuclear madness in South Australia and across the country?

Are they planning on taking responsibility for all the uranium waste, they want to sell, some to make nuclear weapons with.

Hows that canned sunlight and canned rain coming along Woody?
The government has to make a buck somehow to support the Greens utopian socialist state, to keep every unemployed and unemployable 3rd world person in a manner they have become easily accustomed to.
Can't export coal, can't export uranium, no coal seam gas, no live export and now no nuclear dump.
What is the government to do?
Money doesn't grow on trees you know.

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #81 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:11am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Quite simply, the on-going costs of storing nuclear waste for the 1000's of years required would make it too expensive for anyone to use our dump site.

This is just the sort of short sighted policy that some would thrust upon us so that future generations would have to pay the bill, AND have toxic waste.

Madness.

what ongoing costs? operating a building and a skeleton staff and some security? it will cost less than the money spent on innumerable wasted projects ever govt has engaed in in the last 100 years.

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #82 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:14am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

longweekend,
Wouldnt you rather be using renewable energy tho?

id rathe be flying a rocket pack to work and shops as well. but i am constrained by REALITY. R/E is not the saviour of the environment nor is it anywhere near an economic substitute for fossil energy at this stage.

What I WANT still ahs to match up with what i can actually HAVE.

its only in green-inspired wankfests that the luxury of expecting everythign I want seems to matter.

You say you are constrained by reality yet you have admitted that you believe in fairy tales.. One is a lie because you can’t have both mate.
R/E is definitely an environmental saviour compared to fossils/nuclear and on its own it is about as close as you will get to a saviour.
The economic cost of fossil fuels is huge, it creates death and wars in places like Africa ruins entire ecosystems and is polluting the very air and planet we need to even exist.
It is also extremely ignorant to be dependent a resource which is so heavily monopolised by one small group.
We have an economy and corpocracy which is suppressing the advancement of renewable energy, something that has been a mastered science for over half a century.
Renewable energy is advancement; you cannot have infinite growth in a finite world longweekend.
You share the same problem most in western society have which is not giving a shyt about something until it affects you directly. We need to be adults and solve problems before they get out of hand.

you are missing the point, dimmest of the dim. R/E is not economic yet nor is it in any way able to generate the amount of energy we need. if it could, dont you think we would already be doing that? are you that dim to not realisethat people will always choose cheaper over more expensive?

wake up.

What point am I missing.
As I have explained renewable energy is extremely economic just not in the corrupt system we currently abide under; we can either wither in the dark ages or face the future and reality and follow a system where we do not oppress renewable energies.
Renewable energy can produce much more than we need.
And no clearly we wouldn’t be doing it because we aren’t. How dumb are you not to be able to see through a monopoly just because they say it’s not; use your head.
Without the earth cheaper and expensive cannot exist dimwit.

not even R/E's most evangelistic proponents make the highlighted claims you make.

you are just making stuff up and thinking it is true.

The economy can be altered to work with Renewable energy, there is no point continuing to partake in a rigged economy which suprsesses renewable energy when it is our only future.
People like you are just going to make this inevitable change hard and possibly too late.

Sounds like what the people who wrote the bible thought

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #83 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:43am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

longweekend,
Wouldnt you rather be using renewable energy tho?

id rathe be flying a rocket pack to work and shops as well. but i am constrained by REALITY. R/E is not the saviour of the environment nor is it anywhere near an economic substitute for fossil energy at this stage.

What I WANT still ahs to match up with what i can actually HAVE.

its only in green-inspired wankfests that the luxury of expecting everythign I want seems to matter.

You say you are constrained by reality yet you have admitted that you believe in fairy tales.. One is a lie because you can’t have both mate.
R/E is definitely an environmental saviour compared to fossils/nuclear and on its own it is about as close as you will get to a saviour.
The economic cost of fossil fuels is huge, it creates death and wars in places like Africa ruins entire ecosystems and is polluting the very air and planet we need to even exist.
It is also extremely ignorant to be dependent a resource which is so heavily monopolised by one small group.
We have an economy and corpocracy which is suppressing the advancement of renewable energy, something that has been a mastered science for over half a century.
Renewable energy is advancement; you cannot have infinite growth in a finite world longweekend.
You share the same problem most in western society have which is not giving a shyt about something until it affects you directly. We need to be adults and solve problems before they get out of hand.

you are missing the point, dimmest of the dim. R/E is not economic yet nor is it in any way able to generate the amount of energy we need. if it could, dont you think we would already be doing that? are you that dim to not realisethat people will always choose cheaper over more expensive?

wake up.

What point am I missing.
As I have explained renewable energy is extremely economic just not in the corrupt system we currently abide under; we can either wither in the dark ages or face the future and reality and follow a system where we do not oppress renewable energies.
Renewable energy can produce much more than we need.
And no clearly we wouldn’t be doing it because we aren’t. How dumb are you not to be able to see through a monopoly just because they say it’s not; use your head.
Without the earth cheaper and expensive cannot exist dimwit.

not even R/E's most evangelistic proponents make the highlighted claims you make.

you are just making stuff up and thinking it is true.

The economy can be altered to work with Renewable energy, there is no point continuing to partake in a rigged economy which suprsesses renewable energy when it is our only future.
People like you are just going to make this inevitable change hard and possibly too late.

Sounds like what the people who wrote the bible thought

you are now officially part of the quartet once known as the Three Stooges: Vegy, pansi and Lastnail.

if you dont like the facts you just say they arent true and then create your own illusions.

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Reply #84 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:50am

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you are now officially part of the quartet once known as the Three Stooges: Vegy, pansi and Lastnail.

if you dont like the facts you just say they arent true and then create your own illusions.

So when will people like you except reality and move into the future? Do you think it’s better to wait until it may be too late or too sort problems out before they get too big?
Whether you like it or not what I am saying will have to happen eventually.
The longer we let the corporations take hold the harder it will be to shake them off.

Please stop talking about facts, we already know you don’t account for them. You talk about illusions, perhaps this is why you believe in an invisible man in the sky; has he appeared to you in a vision long?

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #86 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:22am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Quite simply, the on-going costs of storing nuclear waste for the 1000's of years required would make it too expensive for anyone to use our dump site.

This is just the sort of short sighted policy that some would thrust upon us so that future generations would have to pay the bill, AND have toxic waste.

Madness.

what ongoing costs? operating a building and a skeleton staff and some security? it will cost less than the money spent on innumerable wasted projects ever govt has engaed in in the last 100 years.

100 years is a pittance. We are talking 10,000 years.
I estimated that just a security force of a dozen at $50k each, for 10,000 years would cost about $1.5 gazillion to fund which you include inflation. No to mention you'd need to rebuild the building every 2 or 300 years (50 times)....

Its the storage time thats the killer. 5 times as long as christianity has existed!

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Reply #87 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Quote:

you are now officially part of the quartet once known as the Three Stooges: Vegy, pansi and Lastnail.

if you dont like the facts you just say they arent true and then create your own illusions.

So when will people like you except reality and move into the future? Do you think it’s better to wait until it may be too late or too sort problems out before they get too big?
Whether you like it or not what I am saying will have to happen eventually.
The longer we let the corporations take hold the harder it will be to shake them off.

Please stop talking about facts, we already know you don’t account for them. You talk about illusions, perhaps this is why you believe in an invisible man in the sky; has he appeared to you in a vision long?

I want my rocket pack now!!!!

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Reply #88 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:08am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:50am:

Quote:

you are now officially part of the quartet once known as the Three Stooges: Vegy, pansi and Lastnail.

if you dont like the facts you just say they arent true and then create your own illusions.

So when will people like you except reality and move into the future? Do you think it’s better to wait until it may be too late or too sort problems out before they get too big?
Whether you like it or not what I am saying will have to happen eventually.
The longer we let the corporations take hold the harder it will be to shake them off.

Please stop talking about facts, we already know you don’t account for them. You talk about illusions, perhaps this is why you believe in an invisible man in the sky; has he appeared to you in a vision long?

I want my rocket pack now!!!!

Get one then? They do exist ya know

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Re: World's Nuclear Waste Dump Here?
Reply #89 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:08am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am:

Quite simply, the on-going costs of storing nuclear waste for the 1000's of years required would make it too expensive for anyone to use our dump site.

This is just the sort of short sighted policy that some would thrust upon us so that future generations would have to pay the bill, AND have toxic waste.

Madness.

what ongoing costs? operating a building and a skeleton staff and some security? it will cost less than the money spent on innumerable wasted projects ever govt has engaed in in the last 100 years.

100 years is a pittance. We are talking 10,000 years.
I estimated that just a security force of a dozen at $50k each, for 10,000 years would cost about $1.5 gazillion to fund which you include inflation. No to mention you'd need to rebuild the building every 2 or 300 years (50 times)....

Its the storage time thats the killer. 5 times as long as christianity has existed!

has it never occured to you that technology just MIGHT advance over the next couple centuries? Never thought that we might have proper disposal techniques within 100 years? do you really think that in 500 years time we wont have worked out how to clean up our crap???

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