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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Racist quotes on liberal website Reply #30 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 10:25am
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Reply #31 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

i wheel it out because you labor supporters are that stupid that you like to play the morality line time and time again. if you want to debate the merits of your particular party then dont be so foolish as to do so in an area where labor has such an aplling record. debate policy all you want but if you want to talk about the morality of liberals then it is fair game to use the court convictions of child rapist labor MPs.

choose your field of battle with more intelligence.

Oh yes, I'm sure the labor party has a clause in its membership form requiring that only bona fide pedos are allowed to join. I'm sure the Labor party actively persues pedo activities.

The Liberal party owns its website. The Liberal party can edit material published on its website. The Liberal party chooses not to edit racist material even over long time periods. Therefore we can only conclude that the Liberal party agrees with the comments that it allows to be published. The Liberal party is therefore actively engaged in the dissemination of racist thought and material.

Now show me where the Labor party actively engages in the dissemination of pedo material longtimebetweenthoughts. Moreover if you can't show it then I want a public admission that you're a fool.

longmoron you aren't just an idiot, you practice at it. You're a world-class leading expert in idiot. In fact it seems to be the ONLY thing you're good at.

and you wonder why we keep reminding you that Labor has had a huge problem with sex offenders... and the reason why, remains abundantly clear even in your post. You simply deny or forget that it happens. and while you and the labor party continue to fail to recognise the problem, you will continue to preselect pedos, rapists and embezzlers.

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Reply #32 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:07am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 9:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 8:28am:

i wheel it out because you labor supporters are that stupid that you like to play the morality line time and time again. if you want to debate the merits of your particular party then dont be so foolish as to do so in an area where labor has such an aplling record. debate policy all you want but if you want to talk about the morality of liberals then it is fair game to use the court convictions of child rapist labor MPs.

choose your field of battle with more intelligence.

Oh yes, I'm sure the labor party has a clause in its membership form requiring that only bona fide pedos are allowed to join. I'm sure the Labor party actively persues pedo activities.

The Liberal party owns its website. The Liberal party can edit material published on its website. The Liberal party chooses not to edit racist material even over long time periods. Therefore we can only conclude that the Liberal party agrees with the comments that it allows to be published. The Liberal party is therefore actively engaged in the dissemination of racist thought and material.

Now show me where the Labor party actively engages in the dissemination of pedo material longtimebetweenthoughts. Moreover if you can't show it then I want a public admission that you're a fool.

longmoron you aren't just an idiot, you practice at it. You're a world-class leading expert in idiot. In fact it seems to be the ONLY thing you're good at.

and you wonder why we keep reminding you that Labor has had a huge problem with sex offenders... and the reason why, remains abundantly clear even in your post. You simply deny or forget that it happens. and while you and the labor party continue to fail to recognise the problem, you will continue to preselect pedos, rapists and embezzlers.

Sounds like your religion longy

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Reply #34 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:58am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

and you wonder why we keep reminding you that Labor has had a huge problem with sex offenders... and the reason why, remains abundantly clear even in your post. You simply deny or forget that it happens. and while you and the labor party continue to fail to recognise the problem, you will continue to preselect pedos, rapists and embezzlers.

I am not denying or forgetting any such thing longstoopid. I am denying that the Labor party has a policy of endorsing pedophilia. Show me that policy longslime. The evidence or an apology ta much.

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Reply #35 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

and you wonder why we keep reminding you that Labor has had a huge problem with sex offenders... and the reason why, remains abundantly clear even in your post. You simply deny or forget that it happens. and while you and the labor party continue to fail to recognise the problem, you will continue to preselect pedos, rapists and embezzlers.

I am not denying or forgetting any such thing longstoopid. I am denying that the Labor party has a policy of endorsing pedophilia. Show me that policy longslime. The evidence or an apology ta much.

nor have I said such a thing. In fact if your comprehension abilities werent so pitifully low you would have noted that I was saying labor supporters can hardly make a moral superiority argument when their own side is literally guilty of heinous offences.

try again...

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Reply #36 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:28pm

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 11:06am:

and you wonder why we keep reminding you that Labor has had a huge problem with sex offenders... and the reason why, remains abundantly clear even in your post. You simply deny or forget that it happens. and while you and the labor party continue to fail to recognise the problem, you will continue to preselect pedos, rapists and embezzlers.

I am not denying or forgetting any such thing longstoopid. I am denying that the Labor party has a policy of endorsing pedophilia. Show me that policy longslime. The evidence or an apology ta much.

LW has never apologised for any of his 1000's of errors.

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Reply #38 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

nor have I said such a thing. In fact if your comprehension abilities werent so pitifully low you would have noted that I was saying labor supporters can hardly make a moral superiority argument when their own side is literally guilty of heinous offences.

try again...

Yes you have, you're just to stoopid to understand your own words (which doesn't surprise me a jot). Neither am I the first to point this out to you as I recall. So you're persistently stoopid.

You are such a drone that you're incapable of seeing the distinction between an organisation and the people who comprise that organisation. That any organisation may have people within it who do the wrong thing. That the activities of those individuals have nothing to do with the organisation.

No - your view and your claim - is that because there was a convicted pedo in the Labor party then the Labor party actively supports pedos. YOU are calling all Labor party members pedophiles or supporters of pedophiles.

I think you want to be very careful making those kinds of claims. I seem to recall YOU banning someone for even hinting at a similar claim.

And I want a public apology for being called that by you.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Racist quotes on liberal website Reply #39 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:47pm ... wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:31pm: All parties have their failings in one way or another: Labor are sleazebags. Liberal are assholes. Greens are morons. shrug that's just the way it is. On the other hand, I can't argue with that one all that much.
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Reply #40 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

nor have I said such a thing. In fact if your comprehension abilities werent so pitifully low you would have noted that I was saying labor supporters can hardly make a moral superiority argument when their own side is literally guilty of heinous offences.

try again...

Yes you have, you're just to stoopid to understand your own words (which doesn't surprise me a jot). Neither am I the first to point this out to you as I recall. So you're persistently stoopid.

You are such a drone that you're incapable of seeing the distinction between an organisation and the people who comprise that organisation. That any organisation may have people within it who do the wrong thing. That the activities of those individuals have nothing to do with the organisation.

No - your view and your claim - is that because there was a convicted pedo in the Labor party then the Labor party actively supports pedos. YOU are calling all Labor party members pedophiles or supporters of pedophiles.

I think you want to be very careful making those kinds of claims. I seem to recall YOU banning someone for even hinting at a similar claim.

And I want a public apology for being called that by you.

and the limits of your comprehension ability is yet again revealed. i have NEVER said such a thing and wouldnt. but the lack of your intelligence is clouding the issue. so let me state it clearly so that hopefully even YOU can't misrepresent it.

When labor supporters want to claim a moral advantage, they cannot then expect that their party's own significant moral failings wont be brought to account. after all, of all the MPs jailed for child sex offences, every single one of them has been a labor MP. like it or not, it is fact.

Now I dont believe the ALP supports such behaviours. I would have thought that was pretty damn obvious - even to a tool like you. however, their preselection policies are so lame that pedos and other criminals easily slip thru while other parties seemingly keep them out. It is hard to disagree with that sentiment.

i've never called you a pedo or supporter of them. That is self-evident. I have however called you an uneducated moron with comprehension difficulties. that is also very self-evident.

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Reply #42 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

Now I dont believe the ALP supports such behaviours. I would have thought that was pretty damn obvious - even to a tool like you. however, their preselection policies are so lame that pedos and other criminals easily slip thru while other parties seemingly keep them out. It is hard to disagree with that sentiment.

And so you think the Labor party should be asking prospective members "are you now or have you ever been a pedophile?". And the party is somehow morally deficient if it doesn't? Or even if it does and people say "no" and the party doesn't realise that they've been lied to then it is still morally deficient?

And what is the party if it isn't the supporters? If you aren't blaming the supporters who the hell ARE you blaming? Liberal supporters?

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Reply #43 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

Now I dont believe the ALP supports such behaviours. I would have thought that was pretty damn obvious - even to a tool like you. however, their preselection policies are so lame that pedos and other criminals easily slip thru while other parties seemingly keep them out. It is hard to disagree with that sentiment.

And so you think the Labor party should be asking prospective members "are you now or have you ever been a pedophile?". And the party is somehow morally deficient if it doesn't? Or even if it does and people say "no" and the party doesn't realise that they've been lied to then it is still morally deficient?

And what is the party if it isn't the supporters? If you aren't blaming the supporters who the hell ARE you blaming? Liberal supporters?

you do know that some political parties actually do asks questions like that although framed a little more sensitively than that? do you really think that they dont do background checks? some of the convicted labor MPs had people on edge and suspicious about them for years before they were caught, but nothing was done. THIS is what i am referring to - the fact that labor has some significant problems in its preselection process. they select people on the basis of their service to the party or union movement and not on their suitability or moral character. this is how Thomson was preselected again for his electorate even afer the allegations of fraud were aired. Labor doesnt seem to care too much about moral or ethical failings. there is no other conclusion.

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Reply #44 - Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Gist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

Now I dont believe the ALP supports such behaviours. I would have thought that was pretty damn obvious - even to a tool like you. however, their preselection policies are so lame that pedos and other criminals easily slip thru while other parties seemingly keep them out. It is hard to disagree with that sentiment.

And so you think the Labor party should be asking prospective members "are you now or have you ever been a pedophile?". And the party is somehow morally deficient if it doesn't? Or even if it does and people say "no" and the party doesn't realise that they've been lied to then it is still morally deficient?

And what is the party if it isn't the supporters? If you aren't blaming the supporters who the hell ARE you blaming? Liberal supporters?

you do know that some political parties actually do asks questions like that although framed a little more sensitively than that? do you really think that they dont do background checks? some of the convicted labor MPs had people on edge and suspicious about them for years before they were caught, but nothing was done. THIS is what i am referring to - the fact that labor has some significant problems in its preselection process. they select people on the basis of their service to the party or union movement and not on their suitability or moral character. this is how Thomson was preselected again for his electorate even afer the allegations of fraud were aired. Labor doesnt seem to care too much about moral or ethical failings. there is no other conclusion.

Ah I see. So no Labor supporter can have any opinion on anything faintly resembling a moral question because some sleazebag got through preselection. This is because all members are complicit in the sleazebag's actions given that they chose him in preselection. Therefore all Labor party supporters are pedos or pedo supporters.

longidiot that really is a remarkable piece of vomit between your ears, honestly.

Also pray tell me what the Liberal party policy is when allegations are made against a member. Maybe I can get rid of Tony the Clown just by stumping up to headquarters and making some allegations against him? After all, you lot don't seem to need any niceties like trials or convictions or even semi-niceties like being charged or even accused. Nope, good old rumours seem to do the trick. Is that how it works?

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