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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #45 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:39pm Gingrich Calls for U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said Sunday the U.S. should withdraw its troops from Afghanistan, calling the mission “undoable.”.. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/03/11/gingrich-calls-for-u-s-withdrawal-from-...
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Reply #46 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:53pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

Soren, the man in that photograph hairy and bearded. I bet you're terrified.

He's a Danish special forces soldier. He's on our side (but perhaps not yours).

I am more terrified of the weedy blokes in that pic. They can't be trusted. They shoot their comrades in the back.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #47 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:56pm the guy in my avatar can be trusted
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #48 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:57pm barnaby joe wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:56pm: the guy in my avatar can be trusted Who? Gagarin?
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Reply #49 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:59pm

... wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)

Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.

Pretty hard to justify this incident. The soldier went loco - I can't see any other way to spin it.

yep, pretty much. situation is fvked.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #50 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:59pm Soren wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:57pm: barnaby joe wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:56pm: the guy in my avatar can be trusted Who? Gagarin, the space cadet? its charles lindbergh
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #51 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:01pm barnaby joe wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:59pm: Soren wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:57pm: barnaby joe wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 9:56pm: the guy in my avatar can be trusted Who? Gagarin, the space cadet? its charles lindbergh Can we have a bit of stream of consciousness as to why?
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Reply #52 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:07pm

-he was an aviation hero and that was cool
-he was a eugenicist and an old school swedish american
- he was an isolationist
- he was a conservationist
- i saw his plane last year and it hought it was awesome, got photos next to it too (i also bought an einstein plushtoy in the gift shop next to it)

aint nuttin wrong with dat.

whats this topic about again?

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Reply #53 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:12pm

barnaby joe wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:07pm:

-he was an aviation hero and that was cool
-he was a eugenicist and an old school WASP american
- he was an isolationist
- he was a conservationist
- i saw his plane last year and it hought it was awesome, got photos next to it too (i also bought an einstein plushtoy in the gift shop next to it)

Cool.

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whats this topic about again?

It's about an American getting the sh!ts with Afghans and doing a Nidal Malik Hasan on them.

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Reply #54 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:14pm

that's not cool. but guys, the thing is that when something like this happens even though you may get the rare apologist who will come out in defense of the scumbag in question and his scummy actions, he will be otherwise be universally derided by his peers and subjected to severe punishment. if events do not follow this sequence it is against the norm, not part of it. contrast this process with what would happen with the people 'we' are fighting. so what's the story here?

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #55 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:22pm You really think the majority of Muslims would support a Muslim man who walked into a house and shot up 9 children?
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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #56 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:23pm we're not fighting the majority of muslims, though. we're fighting, or we're supposed to be fighting, the taliban and islamic extremists. in the former case, most certainly not. in the latter case, yes (obviously though it would depend on what the house was and who the children in it were, though).
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #57 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:31pm I don't think even the Taliban would support an action like this as a group. I would hope nobody would support this.
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Reply #58 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:37pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:22pm:

You really think the majority of Muslims would support a Muslim man who walked into a house and shot up 9 children?

Annie in 2003 in Shmuel HaNavi,, Hamas send a suicide bomber to dress up and get onto school bus and suicide bomb target to kill Jewish school children.

This is then claimed by Hamas as attack from them.

This kills many children and suicide bombs is have ball bearings in them to also injure many more of the school children.

Hamas is Muslims.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians Reply #59 - Mar 12^th, 2012 at 10:43pm But they are not the majority of Muslims, are they?
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