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Andrei.Hicks

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Reply #15 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:48am

Kat wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:43am:

And don't even bother polluting the thread with the old 'it's not their money, it's
OURS' bullcrap, that just makes you look childish as well as selfish and greedy.

So you believe we should have no say in how our money is spent?

Tell me kat, why should people just receive money when they have done the square root of bugger all to earn it?

Something for nothing - is it not?

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Reply #16 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:50am

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No wrong again. It is not living off the backs of others. It is money for those that are unemployed, for no fault of their own. Wink

I was "unemployed" before university and spent the time on holiday and claimed the dole.

So I am the only person in the world to do this??

Every other person is unemployed through no fault of their own??

Plenty of people receive money and deliberately don't work mate....

Some through no fault of their own.
Others are lazy pricks who have no intention of finding a job - and people like me have to fking support these oxygen-stealers.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #17 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 7:54am The people that you are talking about, are a very small percent. Most unemployed want to work. Very hard though if the jobs are not there. (And there not).
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #18 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:01am I am fine with helping genuine unemployed. I do however believe that if it is our money, we should tell them how it is to be spent.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #19 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:09am Why is that?. Its not your money it is theirs once it is handed over. Sorry I agree with Kat, on that one.
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Reply #20 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:11am

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The unemployed should not have to do work for the dole, if they don't want. Wink

They shouldn't eat, either, unless they do something in return for the food.

Seems fair to me when applied to one in good health--

This was what happened during the Great Depression when Labor was in power and there weren't many who complained.

Other than a skunk or commo, who'd be content to be fed by an other's hard work?

An address to parasites:

There is a lot of community work waiting.

Helping old-aged pensioners to live out their lives in their own homes, such as gardening, washing windows. . .

If qualified to do so, giving aid to teachers by face to face tuition to slow learners.

Surely that would make a welfare recipient feel less of a failure?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #21 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:14am Quote: Why is that?. Its not your money it is theirs once it is handed over. Sorry I agree with Kat, on that one. So instead of giving back to the community to help - you would have them able to sit at home and watch Oprah on our money. Yep long live the "something for nothing" mindset.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #22 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:16am I have no problem with work for the dole, for those that want to do it. However having said that, it should not be forced onto people. I think you would find, most unemployed would not want to do by choice though.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #23 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:16am Quote: I think you would find, most unemployed would not want to do by choice though. Yep and therein is also a clue as to why they are unemployed too.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #24 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 8:19am That has nothing to do with it. Work for the dole, is entirely different from paid work.
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Reply #25 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:09pm

I think work for the dole was a great idea.

My cousin ran a program in Belmore,NSW, the first day there were 35 dole bludgers going frantic with their mobile phones.
1 week later there was only a couple of people left,it appears these bludgers suddenly found a real job which paid a bit better than work for the dole.
Those with a medical certificate are exempt from work for the dole.

If only we could bring in drug testing for centrelink benefits like they want to do in the USA.

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Reply #26 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:13pm

The Govt. is quick to take tax from you when all's well & you're working
but when you lose your job they are so mean spirited to make
people work for a lousy $240 a week -
far less money than the poverty line.

Translation - lose your job & work to live in miserable poverty.

We should all be ashamed that a rich country treats people like that.
This is from a Labor government that is supposed to look after the disadvantaged.

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Reply #27 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:13pm:

The Govt. is quick to take tax from you when all's well & you're working
but when you lose your job they are so mean spirited to make
people work for a lousy $240 a week -
far less money than the poverty line.

Translation - lose your job & work to live in miserable poverty.

We should all be ashamed that a rich country treats people like that.
This is from a Labor government that is supposed to look after the disadvantaged.

In Germany they look after you when you are out of a job unlike this joint which treats everyone like they have the plague Sad

And you're right the government only wants to know you when you are making a profit but if you are a foreign corporation such as Holden and Ford the Government always gives you special treatment including lots of cash handouts Sad

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122917 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Get Rid Off Work For The Dole Rubbish. Reply #28 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:20pm Yes Nail, Plenty of corporate welfare but not for the poor - just mega rich companies.
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Reply #29 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:20pm

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I have no problem with work for the dole, for those that want to do it. However having said that, it should not be forced onto people. I think you would find, most unemployed would not want to do by choice though. Wink

they should scrap those job networks and redirect the money to real entrepreneurs that can create real businesses and real jobs !!

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