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Reply #45 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:42am

Yadda wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

The fact is that the Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.

The Jewish people did not steal that, their, land.

Obviously haven't read the bible then have you... or as usual you just pick and choose the bits you like, and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

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Reply #46 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:52am

Yadda wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

The fact is that the Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.

Does that include the all the Russians who converted to Judaism? The black Ethiopian Jews?

According to your logic, I should be entitled to go to Germany and claim the land of my Anglo-Saxon ancestors.

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Reply #47 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

falah wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:52am:

Yadda wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

The fact is that the Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.

Does that include the all the Russians who converted to Judaism? The black Ethiopian Jews?

According to your logic, I should be entitled to go to Germany and claim the land of my Anglo-Saxon ancestors.

And according to your logic, the whole earth belongs to moslems.

"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392

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"the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle"

According to Allah,

THE WHOLE WORLD BELONGS TO MOSLEMS

[as war booty], as per ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran, and the Hadith....

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44

"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

ISLAM = = moslem violence and supremacism, pure and simple, masquerading as religious piety, behind a 'veil' of moslem deceit.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim
Reply #48 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:54pm

falah,

The interesting thing is, that all these staunch supporters of the mass illegal immigration of Jews into Palestine, also just happen to be the biggest whiners when it comes to illegal immigrants entering Australia. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I sincerely pray that one day illegal immigrants become such a force in Australia that they are able to push these scumbags into refugee camps and take over, then I'd like to hear them repeat their positions regarding the Palestinians.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim Reply #50 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:58pm Every Jew has return allowance to Israel homeland. Not illegal immigration. It is law.
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Reply #51 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:59pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 11:08am:

IMAGE
http://www.jihadwatch.org/Arab%20Wave.jpg

Image source;
ISLAM 101
http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html

Looking at that map, depicting waves of moslem invasions of other lands, at teh point of swords......
.......what were the years of the Christian Crusades, again ???

Google;
what were the years of the Christian Crusades

Moslems always whine loudly, about the terrible Christian Crusades...and how moslems of the time were 'victimized', by the merciless, and unjust, Christian Crusades.

BUT, are you aware that the Christian Crusades
were A RESPONSE to the persistent murder and enslavement of many peaceful Christian pilgrims, traveling to Jerusalem and the holy lands [which was, and had been under moslem over-lordship, since the 600's AD].

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #52 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:03pm

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

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The interesting thing is, that all these staunch supporters of the mass illegal immigration of Jews into Palestine

Can you explain how it is illegal, other than you disagreeing with it?

They entered into a land that belonged to someone else. Even if we accept the ridiculous idea the British "owned" the land, which they did not, they merely administered a mandate over it, and if you read the stipulations of that mandate, you'll find they had no right to bring in foreigners to displace the existing people, even by the British estimation, it was illegal immigration.

Can you explain why you think it's legal? Other than the fact you simply must argue the opposite of anything said?

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Reply #53 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:58pm:

Every Jew has return allowance to Israel homeland.

Not illegal immigration. It is law.

Yeh this is the law the Zionist squatters have instituted in order to make sure they saturate the population and expel the current inhabitants.

That's why they make a law that families who've lived there for thousands of years have no right to live there, whilst people who have absolutely no traceable connection to the land whatsoever, have instant right to residency.

For this injustice you will one day pay severely.

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Reply #54 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

falah,

The interesting thing is, that all these staunch supporters of the mass illegal immigration of Jews into Palestine, also just happen to be the biggest whiners when it comes to illegal immigrants entering Australia. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I sincerely pray that one day illegal immigrants become such a force in Australia that they are able to push these scumbags into refugee camps and take over, then I'd like to hear them repeat their positions regarding the Palestinians.

Just like they are becoming in the UK ?

Moslems in the UK believe that some areas of the UK belong to moslems.

Google;

"How dare you come to a Muslim area"

A UK government minister, the Home Secretary John Reid, was shouted down by moslems, at a public meeting, IN THE UK.

And he was publicly challenged, for coming into "a Muslim area"
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How dare a British government minister step onto moslem sovereign land, eh Abu ?

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July 9, 2007
Muslims declare sovereignty over U.S., UK
Across town from the site of the recent attempted car-bomb attacks, several thousand Muslims gathered in front of the London Central Mosque to applaud fiery preachers prophesying the overthrow of the British government – a future vision that encompasses an Islamic takeover of the White House and the rule of the Quran over America.
"One day my dear Muslims," shouted Anjem Choudary, "Islam will govern Britain!"
"......Queen Elizabeth, go to hell!"
......angry Muslim leader Abu Saif, who kept his voice at a fever pitch through declarations such as: "Brothers and sisters, make no mistake. Make no mistake.
The British government, the queen, the MPs in this country, they are enemies to you, enemies to Allah and enemies to the Muslims."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/07/muslims-declare-sovereignty-over-us-uk.html

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #55 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:17pm

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They entered into a land that belonged to someone else.

So if I 'entered into' NZ that would be illegal, regardless of what the law actually is?

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even by the British estimation, it was illegal immigration

Since when are you an expert on British law?

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Can you explain why you think it's legal?

Because the Israeli government allows it to happen. If the British government allowed the Jews to migrate into the area when they were running the show, then that was also legal.

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Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim
Reply #56 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:09pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Just like they are becoming in the UK ?

Moslems in the UK believe that some areas of the UK belong to moslems.

Google;
"How dare you come to a Muslim area"

A UK government minister, the Home Secretary John Reid, was shouted down by moslems, at a public meeting, IN THE UK.

And he was publicly challenged, for coming into "a Muslim area"
.

How dare a British government minister step onto moslem sovereign land, eh Abu ?

Since you're an ardent supporter of minorities overrunning other peoples countries and booting them out, obviously you have no problem with that... right?

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Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim
Reply #57 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:12pm

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

So if I 'entered into' NZ that would be illegal, regardless of what the law actually is?

If you entered without permission from the people of that country, and you did so with a coupla hundred thousand other Aussies, all declaring you were going to push the inhabitants into the surrounding lands and take it over for yourself, yeh I'd say the Kiwis would consider it as such.

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Since when are you an expert on British law?

It was a League of Nations law, not a British one. Please get with the programme.

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

Because the Israeli government allows it to happen. If the British government allowed the Jews to migrate into the area when they were running the show, then that was also legal.

There was no Israeli government, the Israeli government was founded by the illegal immigrants, after they'd overrun the country.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim Reply #58 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 4:45pm Understand please it is Jewish homeland and we never will leave. Arabs must decide how they wish it. Peace or the war as we can bring both to them easy.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim Reply #59 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 5:31pm What do Palestinians have to accept in order for there to be peace? Israel will keep branching out with settlements on Arab land.
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