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Reply #15 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am
 
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.
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Reply #16 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:28am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.


no, show me where is palestine before Israel come?
i cannot see, i see egypt, jordan, syria. where is this palestine?  Smiley

U know when palestine first come? when we give,,,,

and yes when we live next to them by side, we are neighbor.

We live Israel,, they have lands we give them Gaza, Judea & Samaria.
we give them,, the arabs never do this.
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Reply #17 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:49am
 
Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim


falah is presenting false and misleading evidence.




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Instead, read what ISLAM's prophet, Mohammed, and ISLAM's god, Allah, say about how non-moslem 'neighbors' should be treated.




According to Mohammed......

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

Which means, that Mohammed's intention was to fight against non-moslems.

And why was that Mohammed's intention ???

Because non-moslems, DO NOT WORSHIP Allah.





According to Mohammed......
Here Mohammed, is speaking to his non-moslem 'neighbours', Arabian Jews,
....about the consequence for the Jews, of not converting to ISLAM...

"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392





According to Allah......

Remember that moslems consider these words in the Koran, to be the direct commands of Allah.


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

i.e.
Fight against non-moslems, AND ENSLAVE THEM, OR, KILL THEM.

Subjugate [enslave], OR, kill, non-moslems.

And that, is the primary obligation upon every moslem, towards his non-moslem neighbor.




Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

That Koran 5.51 verse shows that Allah himself, directly forbids moslems from making friends, even with the 'people of the book'.



Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28



Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1



n.b.
What does Allah say ???.....

"Take not my enemies and yours as friends."



Q.
And who are Allah's enemies ???

A.
All non-moslem 'neighbors', of moslems.


See again, Koran 2.98, above.



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Re: Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim
Reply #18 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 12:15pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:28am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.


no, show me where is palestine before Israel come?

i cannot see, i see egypt, jordan, syria. where is this palestine?
  Smiley

U know when palestine first come? when we give,,,,

and yes when we live next to them by side, we are neighbor.

We live Israel,, they have lands we give them Gaza, Judea & Samaria.
we give them,, the arabs never do this.




Exactly so Avram.

Before WWI, that area of land which is today claimed to be 'Palestine', was a small part of the territories belonging to Turkey.





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The Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.  That is, the Jewish people, post WWI, were allocated land from what were former Turkish territories.



And, 'Palestinians' already have a 'homeland'.

The 'Palestinian' 'homeland', is called >> Jordan << .





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #19 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 12:24pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Duties of a Muslim towards a non-Muslim


falah is presenting false and misleading evidence.




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Instead, read what ISLAM's prophet, Mohammed, and ISLAM's god, Allah, say about how non-moslem 'neighbors' should be treated.




According to Mohammed......

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

Which means, that Mohammed's intention was to fight against non-moslems.

And why was that Mohammed's intention ???

Because non-moslems, DO NOT WORSHIP Allah.





According to Mohammed......
Here Mohammed, is speaking to his non-moslem 'neighbours', Arabian Jews,
....about the consequence for the Jews, of not converting to ISLAM...

"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392





According to Allah......

Remember that moslems consider these words in the Koran, to be the direct commands of Allah.


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

i.e.
Fight against non-moslems, AND ENSLAVE THEM, OR, KILL THEM.

Subjugate [enslave], OR, kill, non-moslems.

And that, is the primary obligation upon every moslem, towards his non-moslem neighbor.




Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

That Koran 5.51 verse shows that Allah himself, directly forbids moslems from making friends, even with the 'people of the book'.



Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28



Speaking of non-moslem 'neighbors'....
"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1



n.b.
What does Allah say ???.....

"Take not my enemies and yours as friends."



Q.
And who are Allah's enemies ???

A.
All non-moslem 'neighbors', of moslems.


See again, Koran 2.98, above.



You forgot to point out that sura 4:82 says if there are any contradictions the Quran cannot be from allah.
The Quran tells you it is not from Allah if you read the fine print.

I think muslims should look up contradiction in a dictionary.

http://quran.com/4/82
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Reply #20 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 1:10pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.



I'm sure you read the ones you've written all the time eh Abu. Smiley
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Reply #21 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 12:15pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:28am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.


no, show me where is palestine before Israel come?

i cannot see, i see egypt, jordan, syria. where is this palestine?
  Smiley

U know when palestine first come? when we give,,,,

and yes when we live next to them by side, we are neighbor.

We live Israel,, they have lands we give them Gaza, Judea & Samaria.
we give them,, the arabs never do this.




Exactly so Avram.

Before WWI, that area of land which is today claimed to be 'Palestine', was a small part of the territories belonging to Turkey.





IMAGE
http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif

The Jewish people have merely taken back, what was once their ancient homeland.  That is, the Jewish people, post WWI, were allocated land from what were former Turkish territories.



And, 'Palestinians' already have a 'homeland'.

The 'Palestinian' 'homeland', is called >> Jordan << .





http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/oren/Transjordan%20separation%201922.jpg




http://zioneocon.blogspot.com.au/map%20partition%20transjordan.gif




http://www.solarnavigator.net/geography/geography_images/Palestine_British_Manda...




Well, lookee lookee.
Yadda is once again correct.
The Palestinians already do have  a home as has been previously attested to time and time again.
It is called Jordan, formerly Transjordan.
And since Jordan is already 60% Palestinian where the Kings wife is herself a Palestinian, off on their camels they should go with their brotherly love, bomb belts, AK47's and unguided missiles.
Because the Jewish National Home is already taken.
It's called Israel.
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Reply #22 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 5:09pm
 
so u tell me,, i serve 2.5 years in the Army before coming to australia for my student time.

I see and know the Muslim behavior.

So please u tell me,,, how is the throw of rocks, stones and gas to our checkpoints from muslims who is our also neighbors the good behavior that is on here now???

I dont think. In Hebrew we have many names for this behavior,,, which is not any of them good.
in english letter is 'sho'ar'

Tell me how u can describe their actions to us as good and behave with honor??
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Reply #23 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 5:38pm
 
You mean these Jewish "neighbours"?

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Reply #24 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 6:59pm
 
You mean a photo-shopped piece of rubbish??

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While reading one of the news site of the Lebanese terror gang “Hizbollah”, I stumbled over a photo where I immediately thought that it must be photoshopped. Maybe it is not but, to me, it does look like a fake. Simply because something doesn't fit. First it reminded me of the Israeli army evacuating another Jewish settlement and the teenage girl rather looks like showing a fist to the soldiers.

I started doing some research on the photo, got an answer but, at the same time, further questions came along. By the way, no one has ever mentioned the name of the photographer.

The picture was obviously taken in Hebron and it shows a Jewish boy kicking a Palestinian woman. At the same time, a Jewish teenage girl is trying to snatch the headcover of the same Palestinian woman.



Besides a short article on “Huffington Post”, only Arab and pro - Palestinian sites / blogs have been referring to the incident. The "Huffington Post" doesn't deliver any additional information either. However, on all sites, the picture always remains the same but the content of the articles changes. For instance, the “International Middle East Media Center” uses the photo in an article published on 22 September 2011.

The 44 – year - old Palestinian woman Intisar Al Rajabi was hospitalized the day before, as she got attacked by Jewish settlers in the southern part of Hebron. There are more sites publishing the same text and the picture around the same date.

The readership looks at the photo and thinks that it shows the actual incident when the woman got attacked. The strange thing is that another blog had already published the picture in an article from 7 July 2011. An article with basically the same content: A Palestinian woman had been attacked by Jewish settlers in Hebron.

How come that Mrs Intisar Al Rajabi was only hospitalized at the end of September ? Or does the photo not show the same victim ?

It even gets better:
Another site had already published the same photo on 26 August 2009 !!!


My question is: "What does the picture really show ? Is it real or just another bad example of Palestinian propaganda "Made in Pallywood "?

http://shearim.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/woman-from-hebron-palestinian-photoshop.html
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Reply #25 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 8:13pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:28am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.


no, show me where is palestine before Israel come?
i cannot see, i see egypt, jordan, syria. where is this palestine?  Smiley

U know when palestine first come? when we give,,,,


You're an idiot.

Syria, Jordan etc. were all created at the same time as Palestine. Nation states were not instituted until the 20th. century, but that doesn't mean the people and their land were not there.

They were there and had been there for thousands of years, and Jews were about a 2% minority. You are nothing but a parasite, and the fact you have the nerve to describe yourself as a neighbour is just despicable.
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Reply #26 - Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:10pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 8:13pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 11:28am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:59am:
Someone clearly needs to read their history books.

You don't live next door to them, you live on top of them.

That's not called a neighbour, it's called an occupier or a squatter.


no, show me where is palestine before Israel come?
i cannot see, i see egypt, jordan, syria. where is this palestine?  Smiley

U know when palestine first come? when we give,,,,


You're an idiot.

Syria, Jordan etc. were all created at the same time as Palestine. Nation states were not instituted until the 20th. century, but that doesn't mean the people and their land were not there.

They were there and had been there for thousands of years, and Jews were about a 2% minority. You are nothing but a parasite, and the fact you have the nerve to describe yourself as a neighbour is just despicable.


Judea - Jewdea - where does that word come from, I wonder, Mr Angry?

Palestine is a Roman designation, introduced by Hadrian, to spite the Jews for their rebellion. Jerusalem has always been a Jewish city. Israel has always been a Jewish country.
The very name of Palestine is due to the Jews.

Palestine Syria,was a Roman province, and as such it was a Christian territory when the Muslims invaded and conquered it, taking it from the Eastern Roman Empire, which they also destroyed through aggression.

So if anybody has a right to reclaim it from the Jews, it is the Christians. But they are happy for the Jews to have it back because they recognise the Jews' connection and claim to the place.

You are upset because the squatters - Arab Muslims - have been kicked out by the returning landlords, the Jews, who come with a letter of endorsement from the Christians.

So the fight for Israel IS a Crusade FOR the Jews. How the world turns. Fancy that.




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Reply #27 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 5:44am
 
Soren wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
Judea - Jewdea - where does that word come from, I wonder, Mr Angry?

Palestine is a Roman designation, introduced by Hadrian, to spite the Jews for their rebellion. Jerusalem has always been a Jewish city. Israel has always been a Jewish country.
The very name of Palestine is due to the Jews.


It's name is neither Judea nor Palestine, it is Bilaad ush-Shaam, and has been for thousands of years.

Soren wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
Palestine Syria,was a Roman province, and as such it was a Christian territory when the Muslims invaded and conquered it, taking it from the Eastern Roman Empire, which they also destroyed through aggression.


It was a Roman province for a brief period, nowhere near as long as it was an Islamic province. Funny how you recognise a brief moment in its history, yet ignore the vast majority of its time.

Soren wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:10pm:
So if anybody has a right to reclaim it from the Jews, it is the Christians. But they are happy for the Jews to have it back because they recognise the Jews' connection and claim to the place.


Yeh I'm sure the Christian Palestinian from Bethlehem who got his family home demolished by Zionist bulldozers and who now spends the greater part of his day navigating the various checkpoints that dot his land, just to get to work to keep his family from starving, is really sold on the idea of "Israel".

You git.
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Reply #28 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 8:59am
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 10:22am:
abu_rashid wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 9:50am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 8th, 2012 at 9:03am:
so tell me how is the behavior of the muslims to us as neighbors?
how is this good behavior shown to me when i have rocks and large stones thrown to us at checkpoint in Ghajar for no reasons and this comes from teens kids who this parents dont stop them?
this is islamic good behavior?
you think is good we need to stop teens kids with army responses?

Please i can see the behavior of this islam with my own eyes.


As above, when you expel someone from their homes and force yourself into their land, then you're not their neighbour, you're a parasite that needs to be removed.

You should count yourself lucky that throwing stones is all they do, you deserve far worse. You are not their neighbours, you are just a cancer that has overrrun their body.


please learn to re-read your history book.
when you live next to peoples, then is classed as neighbors.

These Muslims are neighbor to us and they behave so poor and they do not show what is one can say is good muslim behavior.

Now read history books. None is expelled. All is still there, it just is the authority is now under Israel.
why is this authority change? well you can see is the checkpoint i discuss where i was is in Golan area, and this was become ours because we is attacked unprovoked by aggressors. As we the brave people and strong army can fight back they run away from us, this is why we need to create security checkpoints to protect us from this again.

None expelled,, none moved,, new Jewish villages come in this area but not move anyone, is all on land that has no peoples on.

Read why this happens. when they do not attack us and they not provoke us, then understand we do not attack them,,,



Avram you are confused. Abu read about Israel on a Muslim website and is now an expert. You can't expect to have a better grasp of the situation merely by living it.
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