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Reply #210 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:28pm

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OF course, the blame for 2000 years of anti-semitism in christian societies couldn't possibly fall on jews themselves. No, Christians should just grin and bear the usuary, the hoarding, the nepotism, the constant undermining of their societies.

You do understand why usury etc became the sole reserve of Jews in Europe, don't you? (It might pay for you to learn something of the rise of the Roman Catholic church).

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Reply #211 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

OF course, the blame for 2000 years of anti-semitism in christian societies couldn't possibly fall on jews themselves. No, Christians should just grin and bear the usuary, the hoarding, the nepotism, the constant undermining of their societies.

You do understand why usury etc became the sole reserve of Jews in Europe, don't you? (It might pay for you to learn something of the rise of the Roman Catholic church).

Because they're forbidden to rip off other jews, but not gentiles?

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Reply #212 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:38pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

OF course, the blame for 2000 years of anti-semitism in christian societies couldn't possibly fall on jews themselves. No, Christians should just grin and bear the usuary, the hoarding, the nepotism, the constant undermining of their societies.

You do understand why usury etc became the sole reserve of Jews in Europe, don't you? (It might pay for you to learn something of the rise of the Roman Catholic church).

Because they're forbidden to rip off other jews, but not gentiles?

Because usury was forbidden by the Roman Catholic church and Christians wouldn't lend money legitimately to other Christians without interest.

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Reply #213 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

OF course, the blame for 2000 years of anti-semitism in christian societies couldn't possibly fall on jews themselves. No, Christians should just grin and bear the usuary, the hoarding, the nepotism, the constant undermining of their societies.

You do understand why usury etc became the sole reserve of Jews in Europe, don't you? (It might pay for you to learn something of the rise of the Roman Catholic church).

Because they're forbidden to rip off other jews, but not gentiles?

Because usury was forbidden by the Roman Catholic church and Christians wouldn't lend money legitimately to other Christians without interest.

OK.....

I'm not sure why that would make Christians happy about getting ripped off by jews, but as long as we can shiftthe blame onto christains smehow, I guess it doesn't matter.

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Reply #214 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 8:11pm

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:38pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

... wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:17am:

OF course, the blame for 2000 years of anti-semitism in christian societies couldn't possibly fall on jews themselves. No, Christians should just grin and bear the usuary, the hoarding, the nepotism, the constant undermining of their societies.

You do understand why usury etc became the sole reserve of Jews in Europe, don't you? (It might pay for you to learn something of the rise of the Roman Catholic church).

Because they're forbidden to rip off other jews, but not gentiles?

Because usury was forbidden by the Roman Catholic church and Christians wouldn't lend money legitimately to other Christians without interest.

OK.....

I'm not sure why that would make Christians happy about getting ripped off by jews, but as long as we can shiftthe blame onto christains smehow, I guess it doesn't matter.

If usury was forbidden, where could Christians go for a loan if cashed up Christians weren't loaning without interest?

Usury was a convenient European way to vilify Jews in Europe.

Make no mistake... The only enduring thing European Christians have proved to Jews is that Christians (over the centuries) are persistent religious murderers... Worse than anything that Islam has produced with regard to Jews.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #215 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 8:41pm Honky, The Christians were the worst in history by far - just look at the 600 year catholic inquisition - worse than nazis. Still - Israel did some awful things. Look at all the innocents killed in Lebanon in the last war!
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Reply #216 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Chicken,
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The man that was killed in his hotel room was a known terrorist leader, who got what was coming to him.
And I dare say any Iranian nuclear scientists now have a price on their head in 2012 eh.

But Moses said " Thou shalt not kill "

Do you live up to every single one of your principles every single day?

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Reply #217 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:09pm

Soren wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Chicken,
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The man that was killed in his hotel room was a known terrorist leader, who got what was coming to him.
And I dare say any Iranian nuclear scientists now have a price on their head in 2012 eh.

But Moses said " Thou shalt not kill "

Do you live up to every single one of your principles every single day?

I did say that :

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I haven't got time to make a complete list.
How about 2 examples?

(1) Blowing up a scientist in Iran with a car bomb?

(2) Killing a man in his hotel room in Dubai &
using Australian passports to act as cover?

Both those acts sound a lot like terrorism to me -
especially using a car bomb in a residential area.

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Reply #218 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:09pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Chicken,
Quote:

The man that was killed in his hotel room was a known terrorist leader, who got what was coming to him.
And I dare say any Iranian nuclear scientists now have a price on their head in 2012 eh.

But Moses said " Thou shalt not kill "

Do you live up to every single one of your principles every single day?

I did say that :

Quote:

I haven't got time to make a complete list.
How about 2 examples?

(1) Blowing up a scientist in Iran with a car bomb?

(2) Killing a man in his hotel room in Dubai &
using Australian passports to act as cover?

Both those acts sound a lot like terrorism to me -
especially using a car bomb in a residential area.

Ooohh, a car bomb in a residential area is an abomination but building a bomb to blackmail your neighbours and to threaten a particular country of 8 million with annihilation is OK.
Do you get headaches?

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Reply #219 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm

Soren,
Get real.
What if people blew up Israeli scientists in residential areas
with car bombs?
That wouldn't be terrorism?

Grow a brain.
Israel has 300 nukes.
Israel is the threat - not Iran.

The people of Israel must demand that their government disarm
so that they no longer threaten all their neighbours.
It must be transparent.
Israel has to come clean & every other
country has to sign on too - with proper inspections
to ensure that the Middle East stops being a powder keg
with everyone armed to the teeth.

Everyone knows that's the only solution.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #220 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:25pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm: Israel is the threat - not Iran. Who is being threatened by Israeli nukes, other than those who wish to attack and destroy Israel? Anyone else?
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Reply #221 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2012 at 10:20pm:

Israel has to come clean & every other
country has to sign on too

What you are saying is that every Middle Eastern country should recognise Israel and its right to exists and sign up to not attacking it.
I agree.
peace would break out immediately.

Israel is no threat to anyone, PROVIDED it is recognised and its right to exist is also recognised. If this was the case, there would have been no war in 1948 and 1967 and so the West bank and Gaza would not have been occupied by Israel (as these territories were occupied by Jordan and Egypt before '67).

But you and falah and Abu and the rest of the gang want Israel to disappear, one way or another. But the Jews are not going to sign up to that. They regard the right of Israel to exist as absolutely non-negotiable. They want to live in peace in Israel. You want anything but that.

So the Jews want nukes to defend their own existence. The Persians want nukes to deny them that existence. The rest of the world is looking at this strong-horse-weak-horse contest, cheering on one side or the other.
For the Jews it's existential. For the Persian, it's the same mania that propelled them to occupy a foreign embassy, to hold public executions, to lash themselves with blades on their most important holy day. It's a mania. Self-defence vs a mania.

And you are on the manics' side.

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Reply #222 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:02pm

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But the Jews are not going to sign up to that.

What?
This -

Quote:

Israel has to come clean & every other
country has to sign on too - with proper inspections
to ensure that the Middle East stops being a powder keg
with everyone armed to the teeth.

If no one has a big army or nuclear weapons then no one has
the capacity to destroy the other.
The Middle East must be de weaponised.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #223 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:23pm Israel must always keep big army and military weapons because of surround by countrys who try to destroy,, See syria who fire to their peoples,, they think easy to fire to Jewish peoples Bobbythebat see that Israel has been given to children of Israel by God,, it is written in Torah and Hebrew bibles of this,
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #224 - Mar 15^th, 2012 at 11:37pm http://israelmilitary.net/showthread.php?t=5540&page=4 See though good news that the new dome system is having big effect to stop the rockets of their attempts to murder more innocents in Southern Israel.
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Question: Does Israel have nuclear weapons?
Yes 20 (83.3%) No 1 (4.2%) unsure 3 (12.5%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: Bobby. on: Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:38am »