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Carr starting to undermine Gillard
Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:18pm

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13077787/carr-tells-labor-to-stop-gab...

Incoming foreign minister Bob Carr has issued a warning to his Labor Party colleagues to stop leaking internal details to the media.

The former New South Wales premier was appointed to the role by Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Friday, after a week of speculation about whether he would be drafted in to fill Mark Arbib's vacant Senate seat.

Mr Carr replaces Kevin Rudd, who was demoted to the backbench after losing Monday's leadership ballot to Ms Gillard.

Mr Carr says while ministerial reshuffles can be brutal affairs, the practice of "gabbling" to the media has to be excised from Labor culture.

"It's always surrounded by angst and disappointment. There's no other way of doing it," he said.

"A leader has got to make choices - a leader has got to choose.

"I had to do that as leader and it left people disappointed who thought sometimes quite reasonably that they could have done a job as well as the ministers chosen.

"But in the end, the team's got to be assembled by the leader and so it has been."

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #1 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:19pm Not even a Senator and he's already issuing orders. I thought Gillard was supposed to do this hhhmmmmm Could the factions be installing a replacement for Gillard?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #2 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:22pm Comes across as Labor still hasn't got a clue on how to handle the new news cycle. It seems to be drowning ... on a very similar level as Abbott and his useless men (and women) are.
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #3 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark. TEN YEARS! Fan-TAS-tic!
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Reply #4 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:34pm

Gist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm:

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark.

TEN YEARS!

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Out of curiosity, how strong was the opposition during those 10 years?

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Reply #5 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:38pm

Outstanding.....Carr is already showing he will support Julia Gillard and slap down detractors.....Labor needs more people like Bob Carr.....I also notice Julie Bishop has tried to be relevant and failed again.....Why do you Liberals tolerate this useless woman....Julie Bishop has no idea and it shows every time she opens her vile mouth.....I notice she used the I am woman tripe to try and gain some pathetic advantage today.....She is such a flake and deserves no sympathy for being piss weak???

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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Sydney Gender:	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #6 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:52pm Bob Carr the man who failed NSW and saw it happening and jumped its ship back in 2005 to avoid the consequences
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Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard
Reply #7 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:52pm

____ wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:34pm:

Gist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm:

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark.

TEN YEARS!

Fan-TAS-tic! Grin

Out of curiosity, how strong was the opposition during those 10 years?

Going on my rickety memory, he won office against Nick Greiner who was no pushover himself. You're right though, the libs then went ever more into limbo. They became useless as tits on a bull. Once Carr left the infighting began. Fatty O'Barrell didn't exactly win office, he just had to stand idly by for the train wreck that was Labor to finally get to election day.

It's a shame though because good people went to waste, probably on both sides. Poor Keneally was burnt out by the end.

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Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard
Reply #8 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:21pm

Gist wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:25pm:

Good man. I knew instantly that he was a good pick for the team. An excellent pick in fact. Ten years leading a government. In the bear pit! TEN! It's not even day one yet and already he's making a mark.

TEN YEARS!

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Jules Gilly needs a daddy figure like Carr. Poor hopless girl needs a boy, a man, an old fart to help her lead.

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Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard
Reply #9 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 12:32am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:38pm:

Outstanding.....Carr is already showing he will support Julia Gillard and slap down detractors.....Labor needs more people like Bob Carr.....I also notice Julie Bishop has tried to be relevant and failed again.....Why do you Liberals tolerate this useless woman....Julie Bishop has no idea and it shows every time she opens her vile mouth.....I notice she used the I am woman tripe to try and gain some pathetic advantage today.....She is such a flake and deserves no sympathy for being piss weak???

Yeh, sure, thats what we need - we need to tell everyone to shut up and stop causing trouble for the corrupt basterds running the country (into the ground)...not!!!! Cheesy

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #10 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can!
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #11 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:37am cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #12 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr.
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beware Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 783	Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard Reply #13 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:47am Kat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am: Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:37am: cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am: can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????.. I bet he can! The faction that put him in certainly see it that way We could do one hell of a lot worse than Carr. Carr destroyed NSW!!!
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Re: Carr starting to undermine Gillard
Reply #14 - Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:50am

Kat wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:45am:

Maqqa wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

can anyone see carr as PM???????????????????..

I bet he can!

The faction that put him in certainly see it that way

We could do one whole hell of a lot worse than Carr.

We are - it's called Gillard

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