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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: The end of peak Oil. Reply #15 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:00pm ____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:38pm: Gliese 581 ~ Goldilocks zone ~ has oil too Just have to created a drill that will reach that star system. Peak oil also relates to the cost of getting the stuff out and processed. i.e oilsand of canada. Which has already been successfuly dealt with. Dotry and keep up!
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Reply #16 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

Sh!t that is easy! We'll never run out! Infinite reserves!

Interested in making a rational response anytimesoon?

I give rational responses to rational arguments. If you give me looney tunes, expect the same in return.

There is no such thing as infinite anything. If you think oil won't run out then brains on toast makes you look stupid. So there will be a point at which production peaks. If you know 100% of reserves then you can predict peak oil 100% accurately. Do YOU know 100% of reserves? If you don't then you don't know when peak oil is do you? So you don't know anything. As usual.

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Reply #17 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:05pm

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

Sh!t that is easy! We'll never run out! Infinite reserves!

Interested in making a rational response anytimesoon?

I give rational responses to rational arguments. If you give me looney tunes, expect the same in return.

There is no such thing as infinite anything. If you think oil won't run out then brains on toast makes you look stupid. So there will be a point at which production peaks. If you know 100% of reserves then you can predict peak oil 100% accurately. Do YOU know 100% of reserves? If you don't then you don't know when peak oil is do you? So you don't know anything. As usual.

I never said oil reserves were infite and you know I didnt. I said that the known viable supplies are now about 10 times what they were and the power shift will be to north america which dramatically alters the politics of the world.

So do try and actually read what I said. The current known viable supplies will probably last 200 years. thats a really massive change to 'we are going to run out of oil by 2025' or at one stage 1985!

COMPRENDE?

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Reply #18 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:14pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

Gliese 581 ~ Goldilocks zone ~ has oil too

Just have to created a drill that will reach that star system.

Peak oil also relates to the cost of getting the stuff out and processed.

i.e oilsand of canada.

Which has already been successfuly dealt with. Dotry and keep up!

No we haven't you just whipped it aside because it doesn't fit your argument.

The cost of tar sand will push up oil prices in conjunction with peak oil pressures.

Then their will be the carbon pollution price added to tar sand that will force oil prices up even further.

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Reply #19 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:16pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

Sh!t that is easy! We'll never run out! Infinite reserves!

Interested in making a rational response anytimesoon?

I give rational responses to rational arguments. If you give me looney tunes, expect the same in return.

There is no such thing as infinite anything. If you think oil won't run out then brains on toast makes you look stupid. So there will be a point at which production peaks. If you know 100% of reserves then you can predict peak oil 100% accurately. Do YOU know 100% of reserves? If you don't then you don't know when peak oil is do you? So you don't know anything. As usual.

I never said oil reserves were infite and you know I didnt. I said that the known viable supplies are now about 10 times what they were and the power shift will be to north america which dramatically alters the politics of the world.

So do try and actually read what I said. The current known viable supplies will probably last 200 years. thats a really massive change to 'we are going to run out of oil by 2025' or at one stage 1985!

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What are your parameters of viable?

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Reply #20 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

I never said oil reserves were infite and you know I didnt. I said that the known viable supplies are now about 10 times what they were and the power shift will be to north america which dramatically alters the politics of the world.

So do try and actually read what I said. The current known viable supplies will probably last 200 years. thats a really massive change to 'we are going to run out of oil by 2025' or at one stage 1985!

COMPRENDE?

Ah! 10 times the reserves? At what price? You may not have noticed but the price of oil keeps rising. Probably because there's less of it left. Hell yes, it'll never run out, for sure. Because at some point whatever is left will be too friggin' expensive for anyone to buy! The Gina Rinehardts of this world will have tiny vials of the stuff to use as a dab-on perfume just to show how obscenely wealthy they are.

So when do you want to call a switch to renewables? When petrol is $1.50 a litre? Or are you proposing we sit around scratching our arses until the price gets to $15 a litre and then maybe we'll think about it? $150 a litre? More?

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The end of peak Oil. Reply #21 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:23pm Its nice to know that in just two centuries we will have wrung every last drop of oil out of the earth. After that people can please themselves knowing we burnt every drop of a valuable resource and further polluted the atmosphere, oceans, rivers, lakes and land when we didnt need to. We deserve a round of applause
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Reply #22 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:25pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Its nice to know that in just two centuries we will have wrung every last drop of oil out of the earth. After that people can please themselves knowing we burnt every drop of a valuable resource and further polluted the atmosphere, oceans, rivers, lakes and land when we didnt need to.
We deserve a round of applause Cool

You forgot the industry paid me bonuses too...

Life is good my friend.

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Reply #23 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Its nice to know that in just two centuries we will have wrung every last drop of oil out of the earth. After that people can please themselves knowing we burnt every drop of a valuable resource and further polluted the atmosphere, oceans, rivers, lakes and land when we didnt need to.
We deserve a round of applause Cool

You forgot the industry paid me bonuses too...

Life is good my friend.

The beers are on Andrei Wink

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Go the Bunnies

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Reply #24 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:29pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

Its nice to know that in just two centuries we will have wrung every last drop of oil out of the earth. After that people can please themselves knowing we burnt every drop of a valuable resource and further polluted the atmosphere, oceans, rivers, lakes and land when we didnt need to.
We deserve a round of applause Cool

You forgot the industry paid me bonuses too...

Life is good my friend.

The beers are on Andrei Wink

Carlsbergs are on me

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Reply #25 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:52pm

____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:14pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

Gliese 581 ~ Goldilocks zone ~ has oil too

Just have to created a drill that will reach that star system.

Peak oil also relates to the cost of getting the stuff out and processed.

i.e oilsand of canada.

Which has already been successfuly dealt with. Dotry and keep up!

No we haven't you just whipped it aside because it doesn't fit your argument.

The cost of tar sand will push up oil prices in conjunction with peak oil pressures.

Then their will be the carbon pollution price added to tar sand that will force oil prices up even further.

How do you make tar?

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #26 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:55pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 3:52pm:

____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:14pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

Gliese 581 ~ Goldilocks zone ~ has oil too

Just have to created a drill that will reach that star system.

Peak oil also relates to the cost of getting the stuff out and processed.

i.e oilsand of canada.

Which has already been successfuly dealt with. Dotry and keep up!

No we haven't you just whipped it aside because it doesn't fit your argument.

The cost of tar sand will push up oil prices in conjunction with peak oil pressures.

Then their will be the carbon pollution price added to tar sand that will force oil prices up even further.

How do you make tar?

Take up smoking

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Go the Bunnies

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: The end of peak Oil. Reply #27 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 4:06pm Its amazing - the more they gripe about finite resources, the more they rip out of the earth and flog to us for a fortune in pricing and tax. Shyte they should be paying us to use it - how dare they dig this stuff out of the earth and make us pay them for it?
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Reply #28 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 4:45pm

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Reply #29 - Feb 29^th, 2012 at 5:53pm

Gist wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

I never said oil reserves were infite and you know I didnt. I said that the known viable supplies are now about 10 times what they were and the power shift will be to north america which dramatically alters the politics of the world.

So do try and actually read what I said. The current known viable supplies will probably last 200 years. thats a really massive change to 'we are going to run out of oil by 2025' or at one stage 1985!

COMPRENDE?

Ah! 10 times the reserves? At what price? You may not have noticed but the price of oil keeps rising. Probably because there's less of it left. Hell yes, it'll never run out, for sure. Because at some point whatever is left will be too friggin' expensive for anyone to buy! The Gina Rinehardts of this world will have tiny vials of the stuff to use as a dab-on perfume just to show how obscenely wealthy they are.

So when do you want to call a switch to renewables? When petrol is $1.50 a litre? Or are you proposing we sit around scratching our arses until the price gets to $15 a litre and then maybe we'll think about it? $150 a litre? More?

you could always step out of character and actually READ the original article whcih answers all this.

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