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Reply #30 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 8:00am
 
Perhaps this thread should have been called "Virgin Australia increase price due to carbon tax".  The title the OP gave it is a trifle ambiguous......
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Reply #31 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am
 
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
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http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.
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Reply #32 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:37am
 
People in my demographic are due to get compensation of $3.

Three.
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Reply #33 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
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Re: Virgin increase price due to carbon tax
Reply #34 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:54am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:37am:
People in my demographic are due to get compensation of $3.

Three.


There ya go. Just enough to pay for that airline increase! Very considerate of Ms Gillard. Now how about you use it to smack off back to the US.
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Reply #35 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:24am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191


increased from $16100 to $18000... big deal. nothing more than tax indexation and worth $1900 @15% or $285.
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Re: Virgin increase price due to carbon tax
Reply #36 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:24am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191


increased from $16100 to $18000... big deal. nothing more than tax indexation and worth $1900 @15% or $285.


So what your saying is $285 is nothing when it goes into YOUR pocket
But $6 is the end of the world as we know it if it has to come out of YOUR pocket.
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Reply #37 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 12:03pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:24am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191


increased from $16100 to $18000... big deal. nothing more than tax indexation and worth $1900 @15% or $285.

The tax free threshold is 6000 dollars, you numnut, no wonder everyone here thinks you're the forum moron,you are.
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Reply #38 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 12:21pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:55am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:24am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191


increased from $16100 to $18000... big deal. nothing more than tax indexation and worth $1900 @15% or $285.


So what your saying is $285 is nothing when it goes into YOUR pocket
But $6 is the end of the world as we know it if it has to come out of YOUR pocket.


I am saying that the compensation isnt THOUSANDS as smoeone said it was but is quite small. the price increase in ari fares is trivial. the price increase in electricity is not. and as I said eralier, my main objection is that the prices are the result of a carbon tax which we already know will have no effect (it hasnt anywhere else before). So we are implementing a process that we know wont affect that a growing number of people dont even beleives exists. the PERFECT labor policy.
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Reply #39 - Feb 29th, 2012 at 12:23pm
 
skippy. wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 12:03pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 11:24am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:49am:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 29th, 2012 at 10:36am:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:17pm:
Gist wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 6:15pm:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 28th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/virgin-raises-prices-due-carbon-053821437.html

Virgin Australia says its domestic ticket prices will rise by as much as $6 per flight due to the federal government's carbon pricing scheme.

Virgin said on Tuesday that a $1.50 surcharge would be applied for flights of less than 900 kilometres from March 1, rising to $3 for flights between 901-2000 kilometres and $6 for sectors longer than 2000 kilometres.

"These surcharges are consistent with the initial modelling Virgin Australia announced in July 2011, estimating that the average increase per sector would be $A3.00," Virgin said in a statement on Tuesday.

Separately, the airline said a $US3 ($A2.80) surcharge would be added on all its codeshare flights to European Union countries from March 1.

While Virgin does not operate flights to Europe, the airline sold codeshare flights with Etihad Airways from Abu Dhabi to destinations that were part of the European Union's emissions trading scheme.

"The surcharge is applicable on flights into and out of EU countries only," Virgin said.


WHAAATTT??? THREE WHOLE FECKIN DOLLARS!!?!

What a rip off! That's it! I'm only buying half a beer!!

Ah, stuff it.


AGL are adding $150 to power bills. try telling me that is small.


Yeah and the wonderful Ms Gillard is giving me thousands in tax reductions to compensate. I don't know how I'll afford that extra $150...  Cheesy


THOUSANDS???? I thought the compensation was around $500pa? there are no changes in income tax scales so I think you are just kidding yourself.


The tax free threshold will be increased to $18 000 and the compensation was only for the carbon tax not naturally occurring increases due to replacing infrastructure and increased maintenance costs.....Blaming the carbon tax for everything before it has even been introduced is a lie and typical of the Liberal faithful who have very little credibility when it comes to being objective!!!

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191


increased from $16100 to $18000... big deal. nothing more than tax indexation and worth $1900 @15% or $285.

The tax free threshold is 6000 dollars, you numnut, no wonder everyone here thinks you're the forum moron,you are.


hey dimwit. the low income tax offset is being removed as well. this had the effect of making the tax free threshold $16100. or did you not wonder why everyone isnt jumping up and down with glee at such a massive tax drop? Quite simply, the change in threshold is EFFECTIVELY very small.

imagine how different life would be if you were accurately informed.
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Keep  acting the moron longwhine we all need a good laugh,and you provide plenty of them.

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Complexity and lack of transparency in the current tax system

Currently the Low Income Tax Offset (LITO) is used to deliver tax relief to low- and middle-income earners. While the LITO has been effective in delivering targeted relief to these groups, it has also created a gap between the published tax rates and thresholds that people see, and the effective tax rates and thresholds that people ultimately face.
It is a little known fact that most people who are nominally within the 30 per cent marginal tax rate bracket actually face an effective marginal tax rate of 34 per cent. Taxpayers between $30,000 and $67,500 currently pay their statutory marginal tax rate of 15 or 30 per cent, plus the 4 per cent tax rate created by the reduction of the LITO at four cents per dollar. The Government will cut this from 4 per cent to 1.5 per cent on 1 July 2012, and increase the threshold so that it only applies to income over $37,000. From 1 July 2015, the Government will cut it further, to 1 per cent. Although there are higher headline statutory tax rates, the combination of a higher tax free threshold and lower rate of reduction for the LITO, mean tax cuts for all taxpayers up to $80,000; and no-one pays more tax.
For example, currently, a person earning $60,000 faces a headline statutory tax rate of 30 per cent, but also loses 4 cents of LITO for every dollar they earn. This means their combined marginal tax rate is actually 34 per cent (excluding the Medicare levy). Under the new scales from 1 July 2012, they will face a statutory tax rate of 32.5 per cent, but only lose 1.5 cents of LITO for every dollar they earn. So their combined marginal tax rate is still 34 per cent, but it is now more transparent. The tax reforms the Government is introducing will more closely align published marginal tax rates with effective marginal tax rates, which is more transparent and fairer for everybody.

In addition, the fact that the LITO is not explicitly reflected in the published tax schedule means that many low-income earners need to lodge an income tax return, even when their tax liability after the LITO is accounted for is nil. By incorporating more of the LITO into the tax free threshold and increasing transparency, it is easier for people to judge whether or not they need to lodge a tax return
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Well they are when you are honest & don't include upgrading & maintaing infrastructure.
Something that has already been pointed out.
Here in NSW the CT accounts for approx 12% of the increases, so prices have risen but only 1/8th of the cost can be attributed to the CT.
A bit of honesty in your arguments might make a nice change, its like the BER lie you lot peddle 16.2 Billion wasn't wasted that was the total cost.
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Well they are when you are honest & don't include upgrading & maintaing infrastructure.
Something that has already been pointed out.
Here in NSW the CT accounts for approx 12% of the increases, so prices have risen but only 1/8th of the cost can be attributed to the CT.A bit of honesty in your arguments might make a nice change, its like the BER lie you lot peddle 16.2 Billion wasn't wasted that was the total cost.


Tell me why there be a single cent of an increase because of a carbon tax??

How come our electricity prices in the United States are infinitely lower and yet we are still tackling climate change??

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