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Re: Will of the People fails to sway Caucus
Reply #15 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 9:36pm
 
The title of this topic seems to suggest that the person who created it is suprised. Why would one be suprised that Labor has not listened to the will of the people, no matter how stupid they are to want Rudd back? Labor never listened to the people before (case in point: carbon tax), so why would they start listening now when it's obvious they haven't a hope in hell of winning the next election?
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Reply #16 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 9:42pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 9:07pm:
But the vote she won was based on the carbon tax lie



The stupid statment she made 2 days before the election probably cost her votes.
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Reply #17 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:37pm
 
cost her votes when?
In Caucus today?
In the prev election? which resulted in a Minority govt.?Albeit with Gillard as leader?

That is frankly ALL pretty irrelevant NOW.!!!

If you want to , any of you can continue this mindlessly boring attack on Labor, and Gillard! Roll Eyes
Wouldn't it be 'smarter' to wait till the next election?

But = IT IS done - lets move forward. Give up your hatred and bitterness, all . For the GOOD of us all, support  only a united Australia. !!  We simply MUST, if we want to survive the coming 20-30 yrs.

Especially a country  of our size, resources, and relatively sparse pop.
If we continue to allow spiteful badspeak (eg. aka Abbott) and unproductive propaganda ( aka Oz media) to create our persona in national and INTERNATIONAL view, we lose BIG TIME.

RIPE PICKINGS.!!!   I'd say, arm the citizens to repel the..!? 

SUPPORT THE NEGATIVES LEARNT IN THE LAST DECADE, and you invite chaos , dissension, and eventually obliteration. (NOT overly dramatic... a poss. future.)

WE are a small POPULACE in a large and desirable Continent. WE SHOULD ALL WORK to achieve positive outcomes, else our comfy lives may be a past dream..

I don't intend to reply to any more muck- raking. !! on this issue.

Those hogs who like wallowing in past miseries,  I couldn't care less.!@!!!!!!
But KNOW what side your bread is buttered on.! Cool



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Reply #18 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:53pm
 
Julia Gillard has about 9 - 12 months to turn the dismal pollings around.

She's led a party to lose a majority after just a term of office - very rare.

She's led the ALP to the lowest polling since opinion polls began.

She does not enjoy the confidence or support of the people at large.

BUT for varied reasons - she does enjoy the support of Trade Unions and Factions in the Labor Party.



It is up to her whether she survives or falls......
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Reply #19 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:01pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:53pm:
Julia Gillard has about 9 - 12 months to turn the dismal pollings around.

She's led a party to lose a majority after just a term of office - very rare.

She's led the ALP to the lowest polling since opinion polls began.

She does not enjoy the confidence or support of the people at large.

BUT for varied reasons - she does enjoy the support of Trade Unions and Factions in the Labor Party.



It is up to her whether she survives or falls......



Andrei,
If she can stop lying she might win.
People are sick of her constant lies.
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Reply #20 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:23pm
 
Labour will be in with a fighting chance if they can prove they have abandoned insane economic incentive killing middle class welfare.  Prove they are the first party to stop the persecution of the blue collar workers, the pensioners and disabled and they stand a fighting chance.  Too many "middle income fatcats" living off wealth stolen off the productive classes. Cool Cool Cool
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Reply #21 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:30pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:23pm:
Labour will be in with a fighting chance if they can prove they have abandoned insane economic incentive killing middle class welfare.  Prove they are the first party to stop the persecution of the blue collar workers, the pensioners and disabled and they stand a fighting chance.  Too many "middle income fatcats" living off wealth stolen off the productive classes. Cool Cool Cool



Whitey - stop blaming other people for your problems.
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Reply #22 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:30pm:
corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 11:23pm:
Labour will be in with a fighting chance if they can prove they have abandoned insane economic incentive killing middle class welfare.  Prove they are the first party to stop the persecution of the blue collar workers, the pensioners and disabled and they stand a fighting chance.  Too many "middle income fatcats" living off wealth stolen off the productive classes. Cool Cool Cool



Whitey - stop blaming other people for your problems.

Stop ripping money off the productive classes and killing incentive in the economy...Nobody can be forced to take a casual job when they want secure employment and nobody can be forced to work more than a 38hr week or on weekends just to subsidize middle class welfare entitlements - these are the facts and they are non negotiable - live with it - the pendulum is already swinging away from your economic vandalism. Cool Cool Cool
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Reply #23 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 12:38am
 
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Posted by: corporate_whitey   Posted on: Yesterday at 11:48pm
bobbythebat1 wrote Yesterday at 11:30pm:

corporate_whitey wrote Yesterday at 11:23pm:

Labour will be in with a fighting chance if they can prove they have abandoned insane economic incentive killing middle class welfare.  Prove they are the first party to stop the persecution of the blue collar workers, the pensioners and disabled and they stand a fighting chance.  Too many "middle income fatcats" living off wealth stolen off the productive classes.   


Whitey - stop blaming other people for your problems.

Stop ripping money off the productive classes and killing incentive in the economy...Nobody can be forced to take a casual job when they want secure employment and nobody can be forced to work more than a 38hr week or on weekends just to subsidize middle class welfare entitlements - these are the facts and they are non negotiable - live with it - the pendulum is already swinging away from your economic vandalism.    


Yes CW !!  lets think positive.....I don't consider your posts as muck-raking.! Smiley Wink you point to the truth, the real.

Bat Brain on the other /other hand...take it like a man.!!!!!!  Smiley

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Re: Will of the People fails to sway Caucus
Reply #24 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 12:41am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:53pm:
Julia Gillard has about 9 - 12 months to turn the dismal pollings around.

She's led a party to lose a majority after just a term of office - very rare.

She's led the ALP to the lowest polling since opinion polls began.

She does not enjoy the confidence or support of the people at large.

BUT for varied reasons - she does enjoy the support of Trade Unions and Factions in the Labor Party.

It is up to her whether she survives or falls......


After reading this entire thread it is made very obvious indeed that NONE of you know who or what governs us, or what their agenda is.

Study the American (fascist) Government and who actually makes the decisions and who decides who 'leads' ... and understand that what happened there is firmly entrenched in OUR government, (either Lib. or Lab.)

Sorry you guys none of you are right, (or wrong) ... the zionist Lobbyists call the shots ... and we the people stand aside and let them.

Ssssh don't rock the boat ... they just MIGHT give us what we want and what we need... But I seriously doubt they will, they want what's left of what we still own....

Globalization ... ready or not!!!!





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Re: Will of the People fails to sway Caucus
Reply #25 - Feb 28th, 2012 at 12:42am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 27th, 2012 at 9:36pm:
The title of this topic seems to suggest that the person who created it is suprised. Why would one be suprised that Labor has not listened to the will of the people, no matter how stupid they are to want Rudd back? Labor never listened to the people before (case in point: carbon tax), so why would they start listening now when it's obvious they haven't a hope in hell of winning the next election?


The reason members of the parlimentary labor party voted overwhelmingly for Julia Gillard is because they know her very much better than the public. They know that she is such a capable leader it would be daft to appoint anybody else. Not only did she resoundingly defeat the 'peoples choice' but nobody else threw their hat in the ring. The Labor party leadership is as solid as Uluru.

Why the Liberal Party continues to favour the incumbent rather than the 'peoples choice' is the question they ought to be asking.
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