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Labor will lose more than 30 seats
Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:54am
 
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/rudd-says-labor-risks-losing-30...

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd says federal Labor stands to lose at least 30 seats at the next election unless the party reinstates him as leader.

The Queenslander also praised senior cabinet minister Anthony Albanese's emotional backing, describing it as "above politics".

While Prime Minister Julia Gillard is widely tipped to emerge victorious when a caucus ballot is held on Monday morning, Mr Rudd says only his leadership can help Labor win back those who voted for it in 2007.
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In a Fairfax newspaper column published on Sunday, the former prime minister said Labor would lose power in a landslide at the next election if it stayed with Ms Gillard.

"Without a change, Labor stands to lose 30 or more seats at the next election," Mr Rudd said.

"No simple defeat. That would set us back a generation."

Under that scenario, Labor would be left with fewer than 42 seats in the 150-seat House of Representatives, putting it in an even worse position that its defeats in 1975 and 1996.

Mr Rudd also praised Mr Albanese for tearfully declaring his support on Saturday.

"Albo's emotional reaction has moved us all," Mr Rudd said.

"He has risen above the politics of the day, the week, the year."

In the rival News Ltd Sunday papers, Mr Rudd's former press secretary Lachlan Harris has accused Ms Gillard's supporters of setting out to destroy his former boss with "extremely nasty" character attacks.

"In the past week, the federal Labor Party has introduced a new strategy into leadership challenges, a public, pre-emptive, on-the-record, neo-nuclear strategy," he said.

"What is so different, and so radically dangerous about this strategy is that it turns the always risky process of leadership battles into a brutal zero-sum game."

Mr Rudd said he only found out Mr Swan had changed his position after Julia Gillard had launched her challenge when he simply said: "Oh, I'm backing change."

"That was it," Mr Rudd said. "No prior warning, no nothing."

On Wednesday, when Mr Rudd resigned as foreign minister, Mr Swan issued a statement that savaged his record as prime minister.

"The party has given Kevin Rudd all the opportunities in the world and he wasted them with his dysfunctional decision-making and his deeply demeaning attitude towards other people including our caucus colleagues," Mr Swan said in the statement.

Mr Rudd also attacked former health minister Nicola Roxon who on Friday said the former prime minister's approach to government was often "ludicrous".

Ms Roxon said at one point he suggested taking over the entire health system with four days notice and without any materials for cabinet or any legal advice.

But on Sunday, Mr Rudd said that just after he was toppled by Ms Gillard in June 2010, Ms Roxon came up to him and his wife Therese Rein at Canberra airport.

According to Mr Rudd she said at the time: "A lot of people said they couldn't work with Kevin, that's what they are saying now, but that has never been my experience."

Mr Rudd claimed Ms Roxon, now the attorney-general, had said Mr Rudd had always supported her through the health reform process.

Mr Rudd said, like Mr Swan, Ms Roxon never told him of her concerns.

"There had never been anything which Nicola had ever raised with me."

Mr Rudd also denied describing Ms Gillard as "a childless, atheist, ex-communist" at Adelaide's Stag Hotel in February 2011.

News Ltd reported on Sunday that Mr Rudd made the comment when plotting a comeback.

Gillard government minister Kate Ellis told News Ltd: "I know for a fact that he was talking down the prime minister."

Mr Rudd said on Sunday he was a guest of then South Australian premier Mike Rann and his wife at the hotel function.

Also present was Mr Rudd's media adviser Daniel Street.

"They were with me the whole time," the former foreign minister said.

"Neither of them, nor do I, have any recollection of having said anything of the sort.

"That is not my style. Other people have said that about the prime minister (but) I've made a point of not focusing on anyone's religious beliefs or otherwise."

Mr Rudd said he accepted that people had issues with his time as prime minister but he had changed.

"Of course people have some legitimate criticisms of some aspects of my past performance and I accept responsibility for that," he said.

"We all learn from past mistakes and I can improve."

But he said he wasn't the only one to get things wrong.

The personal attacks from his former ministers were unprecedented, he said.

"When you're in the midst of a campaign for the leadership of parliamentary Labor party, people are going to say a whole lot of things out there in the heat of a campaign and I think there's a whole lot of things said about yours truly which perhaps should not have been said."

If he lost to Ms Gillard on Monday, he believed the anti-Rudd campaign would continue.

"I would be concerned that they would run an argument up the public flagpole that 'look, the only reason the Labor party continues to do badly in the polls is because of Kevin Rudd' - that's been the convenient excuse for 12 months.

"Or whatever the outcome of the Queensland election it's because of Kevin Rudd.

"I think it's time some people actually accepted responsibility for their own actions."

Mr Rudd said Ms Gillard had made her own mistakes which had nothing to do with him, citing the reneging of the pokies deal with independent Andrew Wilkie and her speech to the national Labor conference in December.

But he said he would not challenge again before the next election.

"If Julia is returned on Monday then she will have my unequivocal support between now and the next election because we have interests way beyond individuals here - they are the millions of Australians who depend on us to form a Labor government and to prevent Mr Abbott inflicting on Australia the ravages of the most extreme right wing the country will ever seen."

He also expected the party to unite behind him if he won the ballot.

"It's time for us to unite rather than divide."

Mr Rudd said whether he or Ms Gillard won on Monday, it was time for the "faceless men" to lay down the cudgels.

"There is a fear, on the part of many, that other folk will line up and have a go at whoever the leader is that emerges from Monday," he said.

"I would be very concerned if that were to happen.

"We are 18 months out from an election. It's important the party unify."
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Reply #1 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:55am
 
The way Labor is going, they will be lucky if they retain enough seats to be called "The Opposition".
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:55am:
The way Labor is going, they will be lucky if they retain enough seats to be called "The Opposition".


This is why Bob Brown is so happy

Labor might even be reduced to about the same size as the Greens support
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Reply #3 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
Hard to call an election 18 months out.

Who called the 2010 result 18 months prior ... no body.

More leadership electioneering to shift ALP leadership votes.

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Reply #4 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
Yes, I read that earlier, and it sounds like what has been typical of Rudd's recent behaviour: saying that the party is headed for electoral oblivion unless he is leader, that only he can save the party, and that the sun shines out of his ********.

Other than quoting the article, does the OP have any comments on it?
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Reply #5 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
Wow 18 mths out from an election Labor is going to lose 30 seats...that will mean the 2 major parties will be the Greens and the Libs.
I hope Abbott has lots of that butter left over from his last meeting with Alan Jones coz he's gonna need it to appease Commie Bob Brownshirt.
Good news all round I reckon  Grin
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Reply #6 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
The Labour Party and the Greens are all ours come election day - its going to be ugly - very ugly, the Australian people need someone to vent on and they are it - all of our fury will be channeled on the ALP and Greens on that day... Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:59am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:55am:
The way Labor is going, they will be lucky if they retain enough seats to be called "The Opposition".

The thing is, would the Labor Party rather lose an election than have Kevin Rudd as their PM again? I think most of them are weighing this up. Many in his own Party have such a hatred of Rudd that this is what it comes down to.
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Reply #8 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:59am
 
Maqqa wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:55am:
The way Labor is going, they will be lucky if they retain enough seats to be called "The Opposition".


This is why Bob Brown is so happy

Labor might even be reduced to about the same size as the Greens support


I don't think Bob Brown should be feeling so upbeat. He is, after all, a large part of the reason why Gillard broke her "no carbon tax" election promise and the people will remember that. The vast majority of Australians are against a carbon tax and that alone will be enough to see the lunatic Greens fighting for their political life.
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Reply #9 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:04am
 
The Greens..They will get 4 times the vote of the Nats and out poll Labor easily.
Its no wonder Commie Bob cant wipe that smile off his face.
I hear he is quite well endowed so Abbott had better have lots of butter and a leather strap to bite down on  Grin
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adelcrow wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:04am:
The Greens..They will get 4 times the vote of the Nats and out poll Labor easily.
Its no wonder Commie Bob cant wipe that smile off his face.
I hear he is quite well endowed so Abbott had better have lots of butter and a leather strap to bite down on  Grin


I refer you to my previous post in this topic...
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Reply #11 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:09am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:59am:
Maqqa wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:55am:
The way Labor is going, they will be lucky if they retain enough seats to be called "The Opposition".


This is why Bob Brown is so happy

Labor might even be reduced to about the same size as the Greens support


I don't think Bob Brown should be feeling so upbeat. He is, after all, a large part of the reason why Gillard broke her "no carbon tax" election promise and the people will remember that. The vast majority of Australians are against a carbon tax and that alone will be enough to see the lunatic Greens fighting for their political life.



It's a ruse

Brown is scared shitless of Abbott winning in a landslide

WHEN this happens - the Coalition will press home their advantage and call a Double Dissolution if Brown looks at them wrongly

Everything Brown has worked so much for will go down the drain when Abbott wins
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This next election the Greens, the ALP and Independents are the target - the election after that its the Greens & Liberals we are going after... Cool Cheesy
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adelcrow wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 9:58am:
Wow 18 mths out from an election Labor is going to lose 30 seats...that will mean the 2 major parties will be the Greens and the Libs.
I hope Abbott has lots of that butter left over from his last meeting with Alan Jones coz he's gonna need it to appease Commie Bob Brownshirt.
Good news all round I reckon  Grin


Libs 104 seats labor 42 and 4 other and probably no Greens in the lower house. you dont get to be a major party with zero representation.
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adelcrow wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 10:04am:
The Greens..They will get 4 times the vote of the Nats and out poll Labor easily.
Its no wonder Commie Bob cant wipe that smile off his face.
I hear he is quite well endowed so Abbott had better have lots of butter and a leather strap to bite down on  Grin


Greens 11%
Labor 30%

just a fact, in case logic has failed you.
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