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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Two Party Preference Reply #15 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:00pm I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Two Party Preference Reply #16 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:11pm The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too...
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Reply #17 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:17pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... Cheesy

I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. Shocked

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Reply #18 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:39pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... Cheesy

I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. Shocked

Thats not entirely fair - sure you have plenty of lunatics like Roxon, Hanson-Brown, Rudd, Swanny in the Houses of Parliament, but you also have plenty of extremists too like Bob Brown, Juliar, Combet, Bandt ect... Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

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Reply #20 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Its called the political cycle, both Labor and the Coalition are in exactly the same situation at different times of the cycle.
History and personal experience shows us that its nothing to get excited about

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Reply #21 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:17pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

The Current Government rivals the Howard Government as the most extremist Government in Australian history and the Greens are an important factor in that and it is certainly a rival for Whitlam for the most unstable and erratic in our history too... Cheesy

I ask for extremists, and all I get are loonies. Shocked

Thats not entirely fair - sure you have plenty of lunatics like Roxon, Hanson-Brown, Rudd, Swanny in the Houses of Parliament, but you also have plenty of extremists too like Bob Brown, Juliar, Combet, Bandt ect... Roll Eyes

And then we have the nuts - you...

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Reply #22 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

so Abbott is aiming for State Premier ... no wonder he is so off the mark politically.

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Reply #23 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:50pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Its called the political cycle, both Labor and the Coalition are in exactly the same situation at different times of the cycle.
History and personal experience shows us that its nothing to get excited about

but occasionally, those cycles end up with one or other party being massively out of favour everywhere. labor is on the nose everywhere and they would lose every election - some by massive majorities.

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Reply #24 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. Grin

except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

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Reply #25 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. Grin

except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

Didn't the hard right say they would win the Australian 2010 fed election too ... and did they?

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Reply #26 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Exactly, the Coalition will be governing 4/6 states by the end of this year, and probably 2/2 territories. NT Labor is also headed to electoral annihilation. I am not sure about the ACT, but am confident that they will win there as well. In fact, I can't picture Labor winning any state/territory election for quite some time, never mind federally. The left just can't accept these FACTS. They still actually think that Labor can win the next election, it's simultaneously sad and hilarious.

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Reply #27 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

I watched that today as well,greens win, it was very interesting. The most interesting FACT to come out of it was that 3 out of the past 7 governments had worse numbers than Labor do now even closer to elections but still won. You watch the extremist like longwhine have a little tanty over that. Grin

except it is not true. labor has NEVER had primary votes under 32% - until Gillard. dream on all you like but NO ONE with any actual knowledge is saying anythign bu that Gillard is likely to be smashed hard. And the comeback kid was Howard - a political mastermind whereas Gillard is a political dunce , making all the very basic mistakes.

I take my info off experts,not closet morons, so I'll disregard your sh it. I love it how you're an expert now, you even dispute poll experts, what a wanker. Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:02pm

matty wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

____ wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

So the hard right don't use prefencing to their own advantage.

Is that why they are currently in the political wilderness will all their hopes pinned on a lame duck?

in government in three out of 6 states and about to be 4. infront by a country mile federally.

only a fool calls that the wilderness, but then again it is the green_goober...

Exactly, the Coalition will be governing 4/6 states and territories by the end of this year. NT Labor is also headed to electoral annihilation. I am not sure about the ACT, but am confident that they will win there as well. In fact, I can't picture Labor winning any state/territory election for quite some time, never mind federally. The left just can't accept these FACTS. They still actually think that Labor can win the next election, it's simultaneously sad and hilarious.

So not as good as Labor were when the lying little rodent was PM,then. Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Feb 26^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

My analysis of the cross-bencher's chances come next election:

1. Katter - will definitely be re-elected. He is popular in his electorate, and abided by their wish for him to side with the Coalition.

2. Oakeshott - will definitelty be annihilated. He has continuously defied and ignore his electorate, in siding with Labor, and keeping this incompetent, lying and deceitful so-called government in power.

3. Windsor - will lose soundly. Same as Oakeshott, yet won't be on the same scale, as he is more popular, and not as laughable, and idiotic.

4. Crook - will probably lose, I imagine that the Liberals will regain the seat, as Crook has made some questionable calls, such as voting for the floody levy.

5. Bandt - will lose, because the Liberals will be preferencing Labor over him. He lost on the primary vote last election, and would not have been elected if not for Liberal preferences.

6. Wilkie - the most unknown and uncertain one of all. Hard to say, he will probably need preferences from both Labor and Liberals in order to have any chance, being that he came third last election. Both parties are likely to preference him ahead of each other, so he is in with a chance.

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