It’s almost impossible to get a full picture on what’s happening in Syria, while there’s a lot your hearing there is a lot more you’re not; and not all of coincides with the west’s views on the situation.

We saw the exact same thing happening in Libya, and it’s now fairly obvious that the west was getting militia groups to overthrow the government; now that we don’t hear anything about Libya it has become fairly obvious that they Taliban have gained a lot of control in the region.

I do not doubt that the west has a hand in the unrest in Syria; if they are not involved it would be a first.
There are plenty of people in Syria and surrounding nations that strongly support Assad and his government, from all unbiased reports probably a lot more then anti government people.

The point is we don’t know the full story and therefore it’s impossible to make a judgement.

All we do know is that if the west is to intervene they will kill a hell of a lot more innocent people then the Syrian government has/will.

Yadda you are a moron. Alawites are not Muslim, they are Alawites.

Their beliefs are totally contrary to Islam.

The Syrian government and elite military forces are drawn fronm the Alawites.

What you have shown has nothing to do with Islam.

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 21^st, 2012 at 7:28pm:




"The......Alawites.......are a prominent mystical religious group who are a branch of Shia Islam centred in Syria."


Exactly so.

THEY, the Alawites, refer to themselves, as moslems.



falah,

It is the Alawites, who are the 'right kind' of moslems, IN SYRIA.

Inside of Syria, in Damascus, it would be you and Abu, who would be considered the infidels.


/sarc off

muso wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2012 at 11:25am:




muso,

That fact is NOT in dispute.

But what is important, is who is holding the reins.

e.g.
You can have six strong horses pulling a wagon.

But it is the person who is holding the reins, that decides where that wagon will go.


e.g. #2,
Iraq under Sadam.

Sadam's immediate, and close family, who ruled ALL of Iraq.

A few dozen persons.



All ISLAMIC 'directed' regimes [who adhere closely to ISLAMIC law], always soon become 'executive' tyrannies, directed by just a few individuals, or a few families.

ISLAM only teaches 'righteous', 'guided' oppression of teh people, as the means to rule the people of a state.

That is why we always see such barbarity displayed from time to time, within majority moslem nations, whenever some group in society, is foolhardy enough to voice any complaint against the current ruling clique.




+++

Inside of Syria, today, the Allawite tyrants rule.

And i reiterate......

Inside of Syria, in Damascus, it would be falah and Abu, who would be considered the infidels.

Because inside of Syria, falah and Abu would be the 'wrong kind' of moslems.

Un-Islamic statements, polytheism and Destruction of mosques by Syrian Regime and its Alawite Supporters

The first pillar of Islam is the declaration of monotheism; to say "There is no deity except God!"

Muslims do not worship crosses or human beings like Christians and Jews.


Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2012 at 11:56pm:



Kissing an object is not worship. It merely denotes affection.

Yadda have you ever kissed your mother on the cheek? If so, were you worshipping her? (although your heart seems so hardened, I wouldn't be surprised if you never had)

The black stone is a meteorite, which is shown affection because it came from Heaven. Muslims love Heaven, so something that is a part of Heaven. However, love/affection does not equal worship.



We all know that Christians worship crosses and people, but here is an aspect of Jewish polytheism you may not be aware of:

Israelis flock to sages' tombs seeking miracles

One man prays to heal the legs he broke in a car accident. An older woman pleads for grandchildren. Another visitor has come to see "God's secretary."

These believers are part of a growing phenomenon in Israel, where hundreds of thousands of people from starkly different backgrounds flock to the tombs of ancient Biblical figures or modern-day rabbis, seeking blessings and claiming they've witnessed miracles.

At many of these sites there is scant proof that any sage is actually buried there. Some are even believed to be co-opted Ottoman or Muslim burial places. But to the faithful, the lack of hard evidence is irrelevant. It's the deep spiritual experience or, for some, the desperate desire to be blessed, that matters.

"Coming here is being able to speak to God's secretary. It's the closest you can get," said Suzy Shaked, a 55-year-old teacher from central Israel who visited the tomb of Rabbi Yisrael Abuhatzeira, one of the most popular pilgrimage sites.

Shaked said she sees Abuhatzeira, better known as the Baba Sali, as God's envoy. A visit to his tomb puts her requests in God's earshot. She was praying at the Baba Sali's tomb for her son to marry.

While there are no firm statistics on how many Israelis visit sites like the Baba Sali's tomb, researchers say the number is growing.

They cite the rising power of religious political parties, the influence of Israelis of north African descent who traditionally practiced these kinds of pilgrimages, and a growing desire by even secular Jews to find meaning in their lives through a spiritual act. Prominent businessmen and politicians are known to make appearances at the sites.

"It's hard for (people) to be satisfied with prayer in a synagogue to a God who is very abstract, who is unclear, who is not accessible," said Doron Bar, a historical geographer who studies the sites. "I think visiting a grave like this gives believers a line through which demands can be made."

Bar believes that the number of pilgrimage sites has grown into the hundreds.

The phenomenon has spawned a tourist trade, where busloads of faithful are ferried from one burial site to another to make a variety of wishes.

Morroccan-born Abuhatzeira was revered even in life as a mystic and performer of miracles. After he died in January 1984, he gained rock star-like fandom.

Today, his tomb in the blue-collar town of Netivot in southern Israel draws an estimated hundreds of thousands of pilgrims. The anniversary of his death is especially popular, a time that is believed to grant the worshipper a heightened closeness to God.

It's the second-most visited tomb in Israel, after that of Yonatan ben Uziel in northern Israel. That site, which reportedly draws half a million people a year, is believed to answer prayers for marriage.

At the Baba Sali compound, believers of all stripes could be seen during the recent anniversary commemorations— mildly religious young women in tight jeans and red nails, pious elderly women in long floral skirts and head coverings, silver-haired politicians in pinstriped suits. The tomb was packed with a mass of wailing worshippers, which swelled gradually into the evening.

The day was joyful and festive, with barbecues, picnics and vendors selling candles and clocks bearing the Baba Sali's image. The faithful hurled candles into a large furnace, a ritual with pagan tinges meant to immortalize the sage's soul.

"I take advantage of any opportunity to go see a sage," said Shimon Kaslessi, a truck driver, who walks with crutches but was told he likely wouldn't walk at all after a car crash two years ago.

"When you've seen miracles, when the sage makes a handicapped person walk, you believe," he added, a tear streaming down his face.

Although the burial place of modern rabbis like Abuhatzeira are not questioned, those of more ancient sages are not always investigated or recognized by any official body, meaning anyone can theoretically designate a place as holy and spark a following.

A site near the central town of Modiin is believed by some to be the tomb of the Jewish priest Matityahu ben Yohanan, one of the heroes of the Hasmonean Revolt against the Greeks more than 2,000 years ago. While not officially recognized, the site draws hundreds of pilgrims a year.

Similarly, a tomb in a Jerusalem mosque is sacred to Jews, Muslims and Christians, yet each claims a different holy woman is buried there.

Researchers believe the grave of the prophet Havakuk in northern Israel was possibly deemed to be there because the prophet's name rhymed with a nearby village, Yakuk.

It's unclear how the phenomenon took root. Traditionally in Judaism, prostrating oneself at graves was forbidden, as it was likened to the prohibited custom of idol worship.

Some studies believe that after Israel gained independence in 1948, many important Jewish sites beyond Israel's boundaries were out of reach. Jews in turn assigned greater importance to less significant sites inside Israel or co-opted what was known to be, until then, an Ottoman or Muslim tomb.

Over time, myths surrounding the different graves emerged, and Jews began making pilgrimages to these sites. The custom is practiced at tombs of Jewish sages around the world as well, including a massive yearly pilgrimage to Ukraine.

Many are nondescript tombstones while some are grand domed mausoleums. Each sage is typically associated with different requests, whether for health, wealth, love or fertility.

More than 100 such sites are considered official holy places by Israel's Tourism Ministry, meaning they are maintained with government funds. New sites are rarely added to the ministry's list because they "lack proof" that anyone of importance is interred there, said Mina Genem, a ministry official.

Nonetheless, these tombs attract Jews from all backgrounds who return year after year because they say their prayers have been answered.

Sarah Cohen, 69, said her daughter became pregnant after she prayed for her at the Baba Sali's tomb.

"I've been coming here for 20 years," she said, after flinging a candle into the red furnace. "My daughter came too because she saw that my prayers were answered."

http://news.yahoo.com/israelis-flock-sages-tombs-seeking-miracles-063157242.html

falah wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 8:49am:



Big deal. Satan  - sorry, Shaytan - is also a monotheist. Declaring moniothism doesn't get you above Satan - sorry, Shaytan.

Is there anything you Muslims have? Ah, Mohammed. That it?
You Mulim are worshipping a semi-literate Arab.

That's it.

WHat else is there to Islam?? Monotheism = shaytan's creed. Mohammed = personality cult.

It just doesn't make sense once you scratch the surface.i