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Reply #15 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:21pm

matty wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

"How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this? "

How does ANYONE believe Murdoch media hack - and tabloid blogger - Andrew Bolt ?

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Come on buzz, "Even the rain that falls won't fill our dams". Please explain??

Matty, I think we should give Mr Bolt the Climate Comissioner's job when we get back into government.

Thoughts?

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Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

You accuse Flannery of lying, and then you come out with the biggest lie of all that global temps are dropping.

Even after you've been run out of almost every enviro thread on here when shown up as a liar.

Will you never learn, or are you just a sucker for punishment.?

2011 was the 'ninth warmest year since 1998' (quote from NASA). even despite the silly spin on that statment it still means that it was the fifth COOLEST.

I doubt interpretation is something you do very well unless it is MISinterpretation.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

and yet in 40 years temperatures have risen a massive ONE degree while history records temperature rises and falls of 4 times that amount in the last 1000 yearas all of it prior to the industrial revolution. and then of course there re the historical ice ages - all of which occured with massive DROPS In temperature.

but yep, you keep telling us how its getting warmer despite the evidence that the cyclical rise and fall of temperature is now on the downslope.

all I want is for you lot to actually get a few of your significant predictions come to pass unequivocably. but so far, NONE. in fact the level of failure is so high that no credble scientist shoudl support a theory for which every model is wrong and every outcome fails.

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Re: How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this?
Reply #17 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:33pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

"How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this? "

How does ANYONE believe Murdoch media hack - and tabloid blogger - Andrew Bolt ?

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and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

in other words, 100% WRONG.

That ... is RUBBISH !

Average global tempratures have INCREASED every decade - on the previous one - for the last seventy ( ... or so) years

You read TOO much "cash for comment" from the Heartland Institute

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Reply #18 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

all I want is for you lot to actually get a few of your significant predictions come to pass unequivocably. but so far, NONE. in fact the level of failure is so high that no credble scientist shoudl support a theory for which every model is wrong and every outcome fails.

Huh? Almost all peer-reviewed scientific predictions have come true so far, just these for example:
1) Increase in global temperatures.
2) Reduction of polar ice cap
3) Carbonisation of the sea water.
4) Widespread Glacial retreat.

Tick, tick, tick.

You're prediction that temperature wont rise.... FAIL.

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Reply #19 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

and yet in 40 years temperatures have risen a massive ONE degree while history records temperature rises .....

but yep, you keep telling us how its getting warmer despite the evidence that the cyclical rise and fall of temperature is now on the downslope.

Do you even understand that graph ?
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Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

and yet in 40 years temperatures have risen a massive ONE degree while history records temperature rises and falls of 4 times that amount in the last 1000 yearas all of it prior to the industrial revolution. and then of course there re the historical ice ages - all of which occured with massive DROPS In temperature.

but yep, you keep telling us how its getting warmer despite the evidence that the cyclical rise and fall of temperature is now on the downslope.

all I want is for you lot to actually get a few of your significant predictions come to pass unequivocably. but so far, NONE. in fact the level of failure is so high that no credble scientist shoudl support a theory for which every model is wrong and every outcome fails.

Yet again longy is dodging the
RATES OF CHANGE
concept!!

I WONDER WHY???

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Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:43pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

"How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this? "

How does ANYONE believe Murdoch media hack - and tabloid blogger - Andrew Bolt ?

i

and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

in other words, 100% WRONG.

That ... is RUBBISH !

Average global tempratures have INCREASED every decade - on the previous one - for the last seventy ( ... or so) years

You read TOO much "cash for comment" from the Heartland Institute

and you read too much sci-fi. in the 1960s the fear was global COOLING which of course occured because temperatures were RISING, right? gimme a break. you are brighter than that.

temperatures have never gone anywhere near outside the usual cycle of rise and fall. by 2025 there wont be a climate change hysteric anywhere to be seen because temperatures wil be a degree lower than now. and the change to cooler has already started.

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Reply #22 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:44pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

and yet in 40 years temperatures have risen a massive ONE degree while history records temperature rises and falls of 4 times that amount in the last 1000 yearas all of it prior to the industrial revolution. and then of course there re the historical ice ages - all of which occured with massive DROPS In temperature.

but yep, you keep telling us how its getting warmer despite the evidence that the cyclical rise and fall of temperature is now on the downslope.

all I want is for you lot to actually get a few of your significant predictions come to pass unequivocably. but so far, NONE. in fact the level of failure is so high that no credble scientist shoudl support a theory for which every model is wrong and every outcome fails.

Yet again longy is dodging the
RATES OF CHANGE
concept!!

I WONDER WHY???

if you want to debate differential calculus you might try showing some common sense first. no one (and that is literally so) is going to debate with a crack-addicted fool like you.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this? Reply #24 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:52pm Here is an educated video for the people who have trouble with how science is supposed to work The idiots at IPCC are wrong, simply, it is just wrong. This guy knows.
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Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

What a sad individual mr progessives/longy is....

When he comes up against temperature data graph, he shows us a cartoon.

deathridesahorse has it all over him, meaning he must be stupider than a "crack-addicted fool". Takes one to know one I guess.

All these, and yet doesnt get a cent from the oil barrons at Heartland.

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Re: How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this?
Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:57pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

You accuse Flannery of lying, and then you come out with the biggest lie of all that global temps are dropping.

Even after you've been run out of almost every enviro thread on here when shown up as a liar.

Will you never learn, or are you just a sucker for punishment.?

Flannery IS a proven liar, and I am still waiting to see how any of you defnd his comments about the dams.

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Reply #27 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:58pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

What a sad individual mr progessives/longy is....

When he comes up against temperature data graph, he shows us a cartoon.

deathridesahorse has it all over him, meaning he must be stupider than a "crack-addicted fool". Takes one to know one I guess.

All these, and yet doesnt get a cent from the oil barrons at Heartland.

Well jolly dill, the cartoon reflects the OP.

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Re: How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this?
Reply #28 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

"How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this? "

How does ANYONE believe Murdoch media hack - and tabloid blogger - Andrew Bolt ?

i

and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

in other words, 100% WRONG.

That ... is RUBBISH !

Average global tempratures have INCREASED every decade - on the previous one - for the last seventy ( ... or so) years

You read TOO much "cash for comment" from the Heartland Institute

and you read too much sci-fi. in the 1960s the fear was global COOLING which of course occured because temperatures were RISING, right? gimme a break. you are brighter than that.

temperatures have never gone anywhere near outside the usual cycle of rise and fall. by 2025 there wont be a climate change hysteric anywhere to be seen because temperatures wil be a degree lower than now. and the change to cooler has already started.

Past Decade Warmest on Record According to Scientists in 48 Countries

Earth has been growing warmer for more than fifty years

July 28, 2010

The 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years.

Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere.

“For the first time, and in a single compelling comparison, the analysis brings together multiple observational records from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the ocean,” said Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D., under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator.

“The records come from many institutions worldwide. They use data collected from diverse sources, including satellites, weather balloons, weather stations, ships, buoys and field surveys. These independently produced lines of evidence all point to the same conclusion: our planet is warming”

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100728_stateoftheclimate.html

FYI

The "global cooling" theory was short-lived - and the product of a VERY small demographic

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Re: How do gw believers like Flannery, defend this?
Reply #29 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:02pm

matty wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 4:57pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

and in the meantime global temperatures are dropping and our dams and rivers are filled again.

You accuse Flannery of lying, and then you come out with the biggest lie of all that global temps are dropping.

Even after you've been run out of almost every enviro thread on here when shown up as a liar.

Will you never learn, or are you just a sucker for punishment.?

Flannery IS a proven liar, and I am still waiting to see how any of you defnd his comments about the dams.

Read my 1st post in this thread you muppet.

Its not "defending" him. Its gaining the truth through accurate quoting.

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