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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #60 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
Clanky wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 5:34pm:
You forgot to add Workchoices.
Once the Libs are back in, and at this rate, with Labor infighting and 95% of Australian media owned by regressive right wingers... they will get in.

Number 1 priority will be to implement WorkChoices. This time it will probably be more extreme (as a sort of revenge against the Australian people).

I imagine minimum wage will be lowered, Holiday pay, overtime and Sunday loadings will go. Holidays will be reduced or removed altogether. In America, the normal is 2 weeks a year if you are lucky. Hours work will be increased, whereas overall pay will be lowered.

Tax on the lower income earners will be increased, whereas millionaires will get a tax cut.

This is where Australia is headed. It's a race to the bottom.


and you wonder why we call you an idiot! seriously, read your crap and find a single justification for any of it.
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Reply #61 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:01pm
 
Your opening rant lost a lot of credibility when you referred to the NBN as a giant money-spinner. not even NBN Corp and the ALP think that and they are a optimistic as it comes. They are HOPING it might breakeven sometime in our lifetime.
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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #62 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:04pm
 
Clanky wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 5:34pm:
You forgot to add Workchoices.
Once the Libs are back in, and at this rate, with Labor infighting and 95% of Australian media owned by regressive right wingers... they will get in.

Number 1 priority will be to implement WorkChoices. This time it will probably be more extreme (as a sort of revenge against the Australian people).

I imagine minimum wage will be lowered, Holiday pay, overtime and Sunday loadings will go. Holidays will be reduced or removed altogether. In America, the normal is 2 weeks a year if you are lucky. Hours work will be increased, whereas overall pay will be lowered.

Tax on the lower income earners will be increased, whereas millionaires will get a tax cut.

This is where Australia is headed. It's a race to the bottom.


You forgot he will declare war on the Klingons, after he sends Bob Brown and a brigade of Green limp wristers into space to slap the Klingons around some.
I like my science fiction better. Smiley
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Reply #63 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:11pm
 
Abbott  has ALREADY demonstrated by way of his lies & weathervane approach his inability to comprehend what socio-economic policies are required for this country in a time of volatile global economic times... what a disasters for Australia to (Not mention the economy) fill  the front page of the papers and News headlines with such trivial B/S.

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Reply #64 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:20pm
 
Clanky wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 11:31am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:30pm:
Clanky wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 8:44pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 6:26pm:
you are an idiot. no other commentary is needed.


I take it that the forums rules of not attacking other members, is not enforced here?

It is a bit like defamation laws. If it is true, then it may be ok. I suggest it may be ok in this case.



Again, another insult from another Right wing person??? Sad

Oh poor cranky planky or should it be pranky clanky. lol welcome to the asylum. What I said was true but around here it usually goes "if it is true to the left, then it is probably going to be ok". I can dream.
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Reply #65 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:37pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:01pm:
Your opening rant lost a lot of credibility when you referred to the NBN as a giant money-spinner. not even NBN Corp and the ALP think that and they are a optimistic as it comes. They are HOPING it might breakeven sometime in our lifetime.


Rubbish.....where do you get your lack of information???

NBN Facts.....
On 7 April 2009, the government initially committed to investing up to $43 billion in the NBN.

On 20 December 2010, NBN Co Limited’s (NBN Co) Corporate Plan confirmed the total capital expenditure for the project is estimated to be $35.9 billion, less than the government’s original $43 billion estimate. The government expects to contribute $27.5 billion in equity for the rollout.

NBN Co’s Corporate Plan confirms that the NBN will provide all Australians with world-class broadband on a financially viable basis at affordable prices.

All Australians will benefit from the rollout of the National Broadband Network, either directly or indirectly. High-speed broadband is essential for Australia’s economy, future growth and international competitiveness. The NBN will improve access to business and job opportunities, health, education and government services and it will allow Australians to more easily share common interests and keep in touch, regardless of location.

People living in regional, rural and remote areas will have improved access to specialists and doctors without having to travel long distances. Students will have opportunities to expand their learning through access to education and research through material transmitted through the internet in real-time. Businesses with an online presence will become more competitive in a globally connected world.

The NBN is the biggest reform in telecommunications ever because it delivers separation between the infrastructure provider and retail services providers. This means better and fairer infrastructure access for retail services providers, greater retail competition and better services for families and businesses.

Online engagement can also reduce feelings of isolation and enhance family relationships.    It can be of particular value to families or family members who are geographically isolated or live far from home.

Allen Consulting estimates that a 10 per cent increase in Australians using the internet will lead to an increase of 0.44 per cent to national GDP. In addition, if the number of Australian households connected to the internet increased by 10 per cent, it would provide gains to households of $2.4 billion per annum in terms of consumer surplus.

The Australian Government has committed that, by 2020, Australia will rank in the top five nations in the OECD in the portion of households that connect to broadband at home.Additional benefits include:

Education: High-speed broadband, delivered to every Australian household, has the potential to extend the reach, availability and quality of education services, regardless of location. The NBN’s greater capacity will allow for more immersive online interactions, resulting in higher quality outcomes for students. The Australian Government has committed that, by 2020, all schools, TAFEs, universities and higher education institutions will have the connectivity to extend access to online learning resources to the home and the facilities to offer students, who cannot access specialist classes via traditional means, the opportunity for online virtual classes.

Health: Australia’s health system is facing increased pressure due to our ageing population, increased rates of chronic disease and health workforce challenges. The NBN will enable homes, doctors’ surgeries, pharmacies, clinics, hospitals, aged care facilities and allied health professionals to connect to affordable, reliable, high-speed and high capacity broadband. This represents a major opportunity to improve the way healthcare is delivered in Australia. The Australian Government has committed that, by 2020, 20 per cent of medical consultations will use electronic or telehealth capabilities – meaning providers will be able to diagnose, monitor and provide ongoing care to patients remotely; saving lives, time and money for Australians, and particularly those who currently have to travel to receive healthcare.

http://www.nbn.gov.au/frequently-asked-questions/
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Re: What will Abbott do???
Reply #66 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:37pm
 
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Abbott  has ALREADY demonstrated by way of his lies & weathervane approach his inability to comprehend what socio-economic policies are required for this country in a time of volatile global economic times... what a disasters for Australia to (Not mention the economy) fill  the front page of the papers and News headlines with such trivial B/S.


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Please revel Abbott's lies.

Just because you want him to come down to Gillard's level doesn't mean that he will.
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Reply #67 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:44pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 11:59am:
Clanky wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 5:34pm:
You forgot to add Workchoices.
Once the Libs are back in, and at this rate, with Labor infighting and 95% of Australian media owned by regressive right wingers... they will get in.

Number 1 priority will be to implement WorkChoices. This time it will probably be more extreme (as a sort of revenge against the Australian people).

I imagine minimum wage will be lowered, Holiday pay, overtime and Sunday loadings will go. Holidays will be reduced or removed altogether. In America, the normal is 2 weeks a year if you are lucky. Hours work will be increased, whereas overall pay will be lowered.

Tax on the lower income earners will be increased, whereas millionaires will get a tax cut.

This is where Australia is headed. It's a race to the bottom.


and you wonder why we call you an idiot! seriously, read your crap and find a single justification for any of it.


Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC), The Bacchae, circa 407 B.C.
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Reply #68 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
olde.sault wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
Quote:
Abbott  has ALREADY demonstrated by way of his lies & weathervane approach his inability to comprehend what socio-economic policies are required for this country in a time of volatile global economic times... what a disasters for Australia to (Not mention the economy) fill  the front page of the papers and News headlines with such trivial B/S.


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Please revel Abbott's lies.

Just because you want him to come down to Gillard's level doesn't mean that he will.


Abbott changes his position more than he changes his red underpants....At least once a month.....All it takes is Labor to state a policy position or an opinion poll to come out and Abbott changes his position to reflect popular opinion.....He is not committed to anything which is why he cannot be trusted to do anything.....He is an aspirational nut job who will say and do anything to avoid scrutiny and his lack of substance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Reply #69 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
Abbott changes his position more than he changes his red underpants....At least once a month.....All it takes is Labor to state a policy position or an opinion poll to come out and Abbott changes his position to reflect popular opinion.....He is not committed to anything which is why he cannot be trusted to do anything.....He is an aspirational nut job who will say and do anything to avoid scrutiny and his lack of substance!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.
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How is Gillard's "There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead" policy doing for her?

And the opinion polls from the last 15 months is sooooo bad for Abbott isn't it?
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Reply #70 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
Tony Abbott Doesn’t understand his own ideology  giving rise to  reason & understanding I have seen he has been called a 'Hollowman'. I Don't feel the need to call out his lies for if YOU don't see it- then why should I !
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Reply #71 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:28pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
Allen Consulting estimates that a 10 per cent increase in Australians using the internet will lead to an increase of 0.44 per cent to national GDP. In addition, if the number of Australian households connected to the internet increased by 10 per cent, it would provide gains to households of $2.4 billion per annum in terms of consumer surplus.

http://www.nbn.gov.au/frequently-asked-questions/


Point 1
Under a Coalition government GDP grew by 100% so your point about the 0.44% of GDP is negligible


Point 2
$2.4B "surplus" to consumers using the NBN as a result? That's about $2.10/week for those using the NBN. What's the point?
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Reply #72 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:29pm
 
Actually I'm disappointed that my post is met simply by personal insults and none of the substance addressed. Apparently one of the offenders is an ex-moderator here, which is very disturbing.

As you can see I am new, with less than 12 posts, so I cannot PM a moderator (Which, believe me, I would).

Personal insults are not only against the rules of the forum, which I just agreed to, but they are the refuge of Trolls.

I am leaving this forum, and deleting my personal information. I am leaving just because of these personal insults in this thread.

Good Bye.
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Reply #73 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:28pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
Allen Consulting estimates that a 10 per cent increase in Australians using the internet will lead to an increase of 0.44 per cent to national GDP. In addition, if the number of Australian households connected to the internet increased by 10 per cent, it would provide gains to households of $2.4 billion per annum in terms of consumer surplus.

http://www.nbn.gov.au/frequently-asked-questions/


Point 1
Under a Coalition government GDP grew by 100% so your point about the 0.44% of GDP is negligible

Point 2
$2.4B "surplus" to consumers using the NBN as a result? That's about $2.10/week for those using the NBN. What's the point?


Do you have anything to support this claim Macaa.....100%.....bullshit!!!

Do you have anything to support your claim Macca.....2.4 billion is revenue!!!
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Reply #74 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:34pm
 
Clanky wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 1:29pm:
Actually I'm disappointed that my post is met simply by personal insults and none of the substance addressed. Apparently one of the offenders is an ex-moderator here, which is very disturbing.

As you can see I am new, with less than 12 posts, so I cannot PM a moderator (Which, believe me, I would).

Personal insults are not only against the rules of the forum, which I just agreed to, but they are the refuge of Trolls.

I am leaving this forum, and deleting my personal information. I am leaving just because of these personal insults in this thread.

Good Bye.


Sorry to see that but perhaps political forums aren't for you.
Try the philosophy board, deep thoughts & ideas discussed in a congenial manner.
The politics board here is just like QT with all the antics & bullying, one must have a thick skin & sharp mind with a good grasp of history to get on Wink
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